GTB Boanerges - Revision history

Androgeos Exeunt: /* Veteran Comments */ Rewrote my old VC to cut out my blog-like opinion, as well as redundant information.

2021-06-13T09:02:05Z

Veteran Comments: Rewrote my old VC to cut out my blog-like opinion, as well as redundant information.

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	''The primary guns of the Boanerges ~~are almost as bad as~~ the triple-gun ~~mount~~ on the Ursa ~~and I can hardly ever hit anything with them because shots fired from them fly slightly upwards. The other issue I have with the Boanerges is that it has no turret~~.''		''The primary guns of the Boanerges shoot slightly upwards, making it a bit tricky to hit smaller targets by relying solely on the HUD target indicator. This quirk is similar to the triple side-mounted gun bank on the Ursa.''

TopAce: formatting

2021-02-10T19:10:29Z

formatting

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	{{FS12_Ships}}		{{FS12_Ships}}The '''GTB ''Boanerges''''' is a [[Terrans\|Terran]] heavy bomber that was brought into active service sometime before the [[Second Shivan Incursion]]. While lacking in maneuverability and speed, the ''Boanerges'' possesses a remarkably large secondary capacity.
	The '''GTB ''Boanerges''''' is a [[Terrans\|Terran]] heavy bomber that was brought into active service sometime before the [[Second Shivan Incursion]]. While lacking in maneuverability and speed, the ''Boanerges'' possesses a remarkably large secondary capacity.

	==Description:==		==Description:==
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	==Veteran Comments==		==Veteran Comments==
	{{Comment\|The Boanerges is a flying coffin for me. I flew it in Slaying Ravana and died every time flying it. I took an Ursa and made it back on the first try. The Boanerges may have a bigger payload, but the Ursa has more gun points, a turret, and a faster afterburner velocity, and for me, slightly better handling. The Boanerges may be smaller, but it doesn't have the afterburner power or the turret to ward off incoming hostiles.		{{Comment\|The Boanerges is a flying coffin for me. I flew it in [[Slaying Ravana]] and died every time flying it. I took an Ursa and made it back on the first try. The Boanerges may have a bigger payload, but the Ursa has more gun points, a turret, and a faster afterburner velocity, and for me, slightly better handling. The Boanerges may be smaller, but it doesn't have the afterburner power or the turret to ward off incoming hostiles.

Aesaar: /* Statistics */

2012-10-10T01:03:27Z

Statistics

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	==Performance:==		==Performance:==
	===Statistics===		===Statistics===
	{{Ship Stats\|Heavy Bomber\|RNI Systems\|Very Poor\|55.0 - 65.0\|85.0\|Very Heavy\|325\|850\|34}}		{{Ship Stats\|Heavy Bomber\|RNI Systems\|Very Poor\|5.5, 6.0, 6.0\|55.0 - 65.0\|85.0\|Very Heavy\|325\|850\|34}}

	===Armaments===		===Armaments===

Black Yoshi1230: /* Gallery */ Meh.

2012-09-29T18:16:02Z

Gallery: Meh.

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		==Gallery==

		<gallery widths=200px>

		File:Time for Heroes Sath Destroyed.jpg\|A Boanerges escapes a stricken [[SJ Sathanas]]. ''([[A Time for Heroes]])''
		</gallery>

MatthTheGeek: pix

2012-09-08T20:48:05Z

pix

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	==Modding Resources==		==Modding Resources==
	~~{{shipimage\|image=~~[[Image:~~Gtbboanerges~~.~~jpg]]~~\|~~caption=The GTB~~ Boanerges ~~in FS2_Open 3~~.~~6.10}}~~		[[Image:GTBBoanerges.png\|thumb\|right\|480px\|HTL Boanerges.]]
	'''Retail''':		'''Retail''':
	:$POF File: ~~???~~		:$POF File: bomber2t-01.pof
	:Textures: ???		:Textures: bomber2T-03a(/b/CD), thruster01

			'''MediaVPs 3.6.14''':
			:$POF File: boanerges.pof
			:Textures: Boanerges, glass, Tercoc01, damage, boadebris
			:Model by '''AthlonBoy'''.
			:Mesh adjustments and textures by '''Sab0o'''.
			:Release thread: [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=74809.msg1481639#msg1481639 GTB Boanerges; texturing.] on 05 March 2011.









	~~'''MediaVP 3.6.10''':~~
	~~:$POF File: ???~~
	~~:Textures: ???~~
	~~<br>~~
	~~History<br>~~
	~~Proposed by: ??? on ???<br>~~
	~~First WIP Post: ??? on ???<br>~~
	~~First In-Game Model: ??? on ???<br>~~
	~~Completed In-Game Model: ??? on ???<br>~~
	~~Final Corrections: ??? on ???<br>~~


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	''Although the Boanerges has the same secondary capacity as the Ursa, it carries two more Cyclops torpedoes (in an all-Cyclops loadout) than the Ursa because of the redistribution. The Ursa has a 5/5/5 (15 total) distribution while the Boanerges has a 3/7/7 (17 total) distribution. However, when carrying ~~Cyclopes~~ in only the last two banks (for example, to accommodate an anti-fighter missile in the first bank), the Boanerges is able to carry 4 more Cyclops torpedoes than the Ursa (14 versus the Ursa's 10).''		''Although the Boanerges has the same secondary capacity as the Ursa, it carries two more Cyclops torpedoes (in an all-Cyclops loadout) than the Ursa because of the redistribution. The Ursa has a 5/5/5 (15 total) distribution while the Boanerges has a 3/7/7 (17 total) distribution. However, when carrying Cyclops in only the last two banks (for example, to accommodate an anti-fighter missile in the first bank), the Boanerges is able to carry 4 more Cyclops torpedoes than the Ursa (14 versus the Ursa's 10).''

Basilisk135: /* Veteran Comments */

2011-04-03T08:44:35Z

Veteran Comments

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	==Veteran Comments==		==Veteran Comments==
	{{Comment\|		{{Comment\|The Boanerges is a flying coffin for me. I flew it in Slaying Ravana and died every time flying it. I took an Ursa and made it back on the first try. The Boanerges may have a bigger payload, but the Ursa has more gun points, a turret, and a faster afterburner velocity, and for me, slightly better handling. The Boanerges may be smaller, but it doesn't have the afterburner power or the turret to ward off incoming hostiles.


	''Most people seem to have been disappointed with the Boanerges. I'm one of them. Despite the tech description, the Boanerges really does not seem to handle better than an [[GTB Ursa\|Ursa]]. It also lacks the Ursa's second primary bank, having only a single two-gun set of primaries. In most anti-capital missions you'll want a [[GTW Maxim\|Maxim]] primary, and dogfighting with a Maxim is an exercise in futility most of the time. This leaves you to fall back on your secondaries for anti-fighter protection, an uncomfortable situation, as secondaries run out. (And if you're not going after caps, why are you in a heavy bomber anyways?) It also does not seem to have a significantly stronger set of shields or a much stronger hull than an Ursa. Its only saving grace is that it has larger secondary bays and so can put a greater amount of weight on target before it runs dry... but sometimes this really does not seem enough to justify its use.''		''Most people seem to have been disappointed with the Boanerges. I'm one of them. Despite the tech description, the Boanerges really does not seem to handle better than an [[GTB Ursa\|Ursa]]. It also lacks the Ursa's second primary bank, having only a single two-gun set of primaries. In most anti-capital missions you'll want a [[GTW Maxim\|Maxim]] primary, and dogfighting with a Maxim is an exercise in futility most of the time. This leaves you to fall back on your secondaries for anti-fighter protection, an uncomfortable situation, as secondaries run out. (And if you're not going after caps, why are you in a heavy bomber anyways?) It also does not seem to have a significantly stronger set of shields or a much stronger hull than an Ursa. Its only saving grace is that it has larger secondary bays and so can put a greater amount of weight on target before it runs dry... but sometimes this really does not seem enough to justify its use.''

Snail: derp

2011-03-14T21:22:25Z

derp

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	The '''GTB ''Boanerges''''' is ~~an [[GTVA\|Allied]]~~ [[Terrans\|Terran~~-designed~~]] heavy bomber that was brought into active service ~~during~~ [[~~Slaying Ravana\|the GTVA's first skirmish with the SD ''Ravana''~~]]. ~~The ''Boanerges'' was designed to endure a longer term of usage than any other bomber~~ in ~~the Allied Terran fleet. Compared to its Great War counterpart, the [[GTB Medusa\|GTB ''Medusa'']]~~, the ''Boanerges''~~'s maximum afterburner velocity is significantly lower, it is less agile, it has slightly less armor, and it has no automated turret, but makes up for this with~~ a ~~slightly stronger shield system and by sporting the largest missile banks among all Terran bombers~~.		The '''GTB ''Boanerges''''' is a [[Terrans\|Terran]] heavy bomber that was brought into active service sometime before the [[Second Shivan Incursion]]. While lacking in maneuverability and speed, the ''Boanerges'' possesses a remarkably large secondary capacity.

	==Description:==		==Description:==

SypheDMar: /* Veteran Comments */Veteran Comments Policy

2011-02-28T11:17:10Z

Veteran Comments: Veteran Comments Policy

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	''~~Basically~~ the ~~same thing~~ as ~~an Ursa~~, ~~but with one primary and~~ a ~~greater secondary payload in two banks. Slightly faster too. But slower afterburner~~.''		''IMO the Boanerges is the better pure bomber, assuming that all heavy bomber wings are escorted by fighters, as they should be (but sometimes aren't), if you want to dogfight as well as bomb then you should really be using a light bomber like the [[GTB Artemis\|Artemis]] or a [[GTB Zeus\|Zeus]], not a heavy bomber at all.''


	''From the tech room description, the Boanerges is really not meant to be better than the Ursa, but rather to be at least as good, the main driver for its adoption being reducing the maintenance burden. IMO the Boanerges is the better pure bomber, assuming that all heavy bomber wings are escorted by fighters, as they should be (but sometimes aren't), if you want to dogfight as well as bomb then you should really be using a light bomber like the [[GTB Artemis\|Artemis]] or a [[GTB Zeus\|Zeus]], not a heavy bomber at all.''		''The primary guns of the Boanerges are almost as bad as the triple-gun mount on the Ursa and I can hardly ever hit anything with them because shots fired from them fly slightly upwards. The other issue I have with the Boanerges is that it has no turret.''


	~~''A crucial line is crossed in the Boanerges. Previous heavy bombers were incapable of dogfighting. The Boanerges is incapable of defending itself.''~~


	''I've never, ever used the Boanerges in any mission that I seriously undertake in the main FreeSpace 2 campaign, partly because there's always the Ursa, and partly because of the way the Boanerges is designed. The primary guns of the Boanerges are almost as bad as the triple-gun mount on the Ursa and I can hardly ever hit anything with them because shots fired from them fly slightly upwards. The other issue I have with the Boanerges is that it has no turret. Unlike Vasudan bombers, which are agile enough to double up as fighters, most Terran bombers are far too slow to not warrant the inclusion of a turret. The Boanerges may have larger secondary banks than the Ursa, but what good is that if you're going to get shot down before you can launch your first salvo? The Boanerges is not a bomber; it's a deathtrap.''


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	''The Boanerges is faster than the GTB Ursa by 10 meters per second, and it also has a smaller profile. However, the Ursa has a higher afterburner velocity and hull integrity, while the other stats are nearly identical. I only used the Boanerges the first time I played FreeSpace 2 in the mission to destroy the [[SD Ravana]], and I think I died and tried again with the Ursa. The only other time you are allowed to use the Boanerges, you also have the GTB Artemis at your disposal, which, for the missions involved, is a better choice.		''The Boanerges is faster than the GTB Ursa by 10 meters per second, and it also has a smaller profile. However, the Ursa has a higher afterburner velocity and hull integrity, while the other stats are nearly identical.


	''The speed advantage of the Boanerges can come in handy in at least one case—the missions in which you must destroy the beams on a Sathanas. The GTB Ursa is massive and easy to hit with the flak, and its slow speed makes it a pain to escape the flak. The Boanerges is slightly faster, and you may be able to escape a bit earlier, especially if you can't sacrifice the shield power. In any other case, particularly if there are enemy fighters, you'll want the GTB Ursa.

SypheDMar: /* Veteran Comments */ Cleaned up format

2011-02-28T11:08:15Z

Veteran Comments: Cleaned up format

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	''Basically the same thing as an Ursa, but with one primary and a greater secondary payload in two banks. Slightly faster too.''		''Basically the same thing as an Ursa, but with one primary and a greater secondary payload in two banks. Slightly faster too. But slower afterburner.''

	But slower afterburner.

Androgeos Exeunt: /* Veteran Comments */ Ch-ch-changes.

2010-08-09T05:26:39Z

Veteran Comments: Ch-ch-changes.

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	''Although the Boanerges has the same secondary capacity as the Ursa, it carries two more Cyclops torpedoes (in an all-Cyclops loadout) than the Ursa because of the redistribution. The Ursa has a 5/5/5 (15 total) distribution while the Boanerges has a 3/7/7 (17 total) distribution. However, when carrying Cyclopes in only the last two banks (for example, to accommodate an anti-fighter missile in the first bank), the Boanerges is able to carry 4 more ~~Cyclopes more~~ than the Ursa (14 versus the Ursa's 10).''		''Although the Boanerges has the same secondary capacity as the Ursa, it carries two more Cyclops torpedoes (in an all-Cyclops loadout) than the Ursa because of the redistribution. The Ursa has a 5/5/5 (15 total) distribution while the Boanerges has a 3/7/7 (17 total) distribution. However, when carrying Cyclopes in only the last two banks (for example, to accommodate an anti-fighter missile in the first bank), the Boanerges is able to carry 4 more Cyclops torpedoes than the Ursa (14 versus the Ursa's 10).''