GTW Morning Star - Revision history

Durandal at 21:18, 21 September 2020

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 ===Statistics - Morning Star D===
 {{Primary|2000|5.88|1000|7|Average|3.5|Full|7|Very Poor|1.4}}
 ==Notes==

Androgeos Exeunt: /* Veteran Comments */ Expanded my VC.

2020-04-15T09:44:46Z

Veteran Comments: Expanded my VC.

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	Like the Flail, the Morning Star makes ships that are struck by it vulnerable to slower missiles, such as the [[GTM Hornet\|Hornet]]. Like the Flail, it is also a fantastic anti-lag weapon and will increase your survivability in multiplayer dogfights. The main reason why the Morning Star is generally regarded as being worse than the Flail is ~~that~~ it consumes '''8x''' more energy per shot for approximately the same level of effectiveness.}}		Like the Flail, the Morning Star makes ships that are struck by it vulnerable to slower missiles, such as the [[GTM Hornet\|Hornet]]. Like the Flail, it is also a fantastic anti-lag weapon and will increase your survivability in multiplayer dogfights. The main reason why the Morning Star is generally regarded as being worse than the Flail is because it consumes '''8x''' more energy '''per shot''' for approximately the same level of effectiveness. It thus becomes largely obsolete once the Maxim is introduced due to the latter's extreme damage against hulls, greater range and accuracy (its shots fly faster) compensating its significantly higher energy demands, as well as making it useful as a proper offensive weapon.}}

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Androgeos Exeunt: /* Veteran Comments */ And now I know why.

2020-02-27T10:33:53Z

Veteran Comments: And now I know why.

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	Like the Flail, the Morning Star makes ships that are struck by it vulnerable to slower missiles, such as the [[GTM Hornet\|Hornet]]. Like the Flail, it is also a fantastic anti-lag weapon and will increase your survivability in multiplayer dogfights.}}		Like the Flail, the Morning Star makes ships that are struck by it vulnerable to slower missiles, such as the [[GTM Hornet\|Hornet]]. Like the Flail, it is also a fantastic anti-lag weapon and will increase your survivability in multiplayer dogfights. The main reason why the Morning Star is generally regarded as being worse than the Flail is that it consumes '''8x''' more energy per shot for approximately the same level of effectiveness.}}

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Androgeos Exeunt: /* Veteran Comments */ Added mine. QD told me to load it once in MP and it was GLORIOUS.

2013-06-11T08:16:33Z

Veteran Comments: Added mine. QD told me to load it once in MP and it was GLORIOUS.

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	The Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon than the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the Maxim simply for the fact that it can be used for something else (anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.}}		The Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon than the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the Maxim simply for the fact that it can be used for something else (anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.


			Like the Flail, the Morning Star makes ships that are struck by it vulnerable to slower missiles, such as the [[GTM Hornet\|Hornet]]. Like the Flail, it is also a fantastic anti-lag weapon and will increase your survivability in multiplayer dogfights.}}

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SypheDMar: /* Veteran Comments */ Already noted that it's tactical and pushes people around. By the way, Maxim not Mxim.

2011-04-01T16:46:33Z

Veteran Comments: Already noted that it's tactical and pushes people around. By the way, Maxim not Mxim.

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	===Veteran Comments===		===Veteran Comments===
	{{Comment\|The Morning Star is a totally tactical weapon, unlike the [[GTW Flail]], which had a useful shield-damage value in addition to its knock-around capabilities. Use it to push folks around, but beyond that, forget it exists.		{{Comment\|The Morning Star is a totally tactical weapon unlike the [[GTW Flail]], which had a useful shield-damage value in addition to its knock-around capabilities. Use it to push folks around, but beyond that, forget it exists.


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	~~If you mount this thing on turrets, sentry guns, transports, cruisers and freighters, just TRY to get near them after...~~ These things WILL juggle you, and you won't even be able to control yourself.		These things WILL juggle you, and you won't even be able to control yourself.


	~~The Flail was a good combat weapon that had a niche waiting for the Prometheus and the Banshee to come along, in FS2 the Morning Star is just a relic of the first game.~~


	~~Interestingly enough, in "[[...But Hate the Traitor]]" you encounter a number of Alastors at the depot armed with one turret of [[GTW Subach HL-7\|HL-7]]s and one turret of Morning Stars~~.


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	The Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon than the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the ~~Mxim~~ simply for the fact that it can be used for something else (anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.		The Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon than the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the Maxim simply for the fact that it can be used for something else (anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.}}


	This can be effective if you wish to quicken an otherwise-eternal battle against annoying fighters like the [[SF Dragon]], as you may be able to shake it off course and thus deal the death blow with a more powerful weapon like the Kayser. Otherwise, just arm the more usual weapons like the [[Subach HL-7]] or [[Prometheus S]]; this isn't really effective in most circumstances.}}

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Marcov: /* Veteran Comments */

2011-04-01T09:21:48Z

Veteran Comments

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	The Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon than the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the ~~Maxim~~ simply for the fact that it can be used for something else (anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.}}		The Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon than the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the Mxim simply for the fact that it can be used for something else (anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.


			This can be effective if you wish to quicken an otherwise-eternal battle against annoying fighters like the [[SF Dragon]], as you may be able to shake it off course and thus deal the death blow with a more powerful weapon like the Kayser. Otherwise, just arm the more usual weapons like the [[Subach HL-7]] or [[Prometheus S]]; this isn't really effective in most circumstances.}}

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TopAce: /* Veteran Comments */ another space

2010-12-01T19:56:02Z

Veteran Comments: another space

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	The Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon than the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the Maxim simply for the fact that it can be used for something else(anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.}}		The Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon than the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the Maxim simply for the fact that it can be used for something else (anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.}}

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Snail: wiki pragraphs

2010-11-07T12:26:31Z

wiki pragraphs

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	The '''GTW ML-70 Morning Star''' is an unusual weapon, described as a long-range tactical weapon. The long-range aspect is undeniable: at 2km, it outranges ever other gun except the Maxim cannon, and even most missiles. Its high projectile speed and blistering rate of fire allow hits even at its maximum range.		The '''GTW ML-70 Morning Star''' is an unusual weapon, described as a long-range tactical weapon. The long-range aspect is undeniable: at 2km, it outranges ever other gun except the Maxim cannon, and even most missiles. Its high projectile speed and blistering rate of fire allow hits even at its maximum range.


	The most interesting part of the Morning Star, however, is its kinetic properties. When a target ship is hit by the weapon, it is shaken slightly; with repeated hits, the target can be driven completely off course and will tumble out of control. This can make them easy prey for a follow-up volley of [[GTM Harpoon]] or [[GTM Tornado]] missiles.		The most interesting part of the Morning Star, however, is its kinetic properties. When a target ship is hit by the weapon, it is shaken slightly; with repeated hits, the target can be driven completely off course and will tumble out of control. This can make them easy prey for a follow-up volley of [[GTM Harpoon]] or [[GTM Tornado]] missiles.


	It also has other excellent properties. Given its range and accuracy, as well as its rate of fire, it makes an ideal weapon to intercept bombers and their warheads. The weapon does high shield damage, but minimal hull damage, making it relatively "safe" to fire at inbound torpedoes even if your shots are being backstopped by a friendly target. It also works well as the opening weapon in a dogfight: if you start hitting your target at the weapon's maximum range, their shields should be badly drained by the time you close to range with other guns or missiles and chew up their armor.		It also has other excellent properties. Given its range and accuracy, as well as its rate of fire, it makes an ideal weapon to intercept bombers and their warheads. The weapon does high shield damage, but minimal hull damage, making it relatively "safe" to fire at inbound torpedoes even if your shots are being backstopped by a friendly target. It also works well as the opening weapon in a dogfight: if you start hitting your target at the weapon's maximum range, their shields should be badly drained by the time you close to range with other guns or missiles and chew up their armor.


	Because the Morning Star does extremely minimal hull damage, it is not a good choice if your craft has only one weapon mount. Pilots should also be aware that this gun has fairly high energy requirements. If your ship has more than two firing cannons for one its mounts, the Morning Star should be mounted on the mount that has fewer firing points. Its already substantial advantages are not increased by firing more than two at once. In theory the Morning Star and Maxim gun perfectly complement each other, but in practice the energy demand is simply too high to make this a viable tactic.		Because the Morning Star does extremely minimal hull damage, it is not a good choice if your craft has only one weapon mount. Pilots should also be aware that this gun has fairly high energy requirements. If your ship has more than two firing cannons for one its mounts, the Morning Star should be mounted on the mount that has fewer firing points. Its already substantial advantages are not increased by firing more than two at once. In theory the Morning Star and Maxim gun perfectly complement each other, but in practice the energy demand is simply too high to make this a viable tactic.

Droid803: /* Veteran Comments */ Overall, redundant is redundant overall.

2010-11-02T23:41:30Z

Veteran Comments: Overall, redundant is redundant overall.

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	~~Overall, the~~ Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon than the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the Maxim simply for the fact that it can be used for something else(anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.}}		The Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon than the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the Maxim simply for the fact that it can be used for something else(anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.}}

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TopAce: then and than

2010-11-02T18:45:14Z

then and than

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	Overall, the Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon ~~then~~ the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the Maxim simply for the fact that it can be used for something else(anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.}}		Overall, the Morning Star actually is a better overall weapon than the Flail, but seeing as neither do much aside from shoving enemies away and destroying bombs, it really isn't that useful. When going for bomb intercept in a mission, I normally use the Maxim simply for the fact that it can be used for something else(anti-subsystem/cruiser killing), unlike the Morning Star.}}

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