Mars's theory - Revision history

TopAce at 09:56, 23 July 2011

2011-07-23T09:56:23Z

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	*The [[NTF]] was Bosch's attempt to attract the Shivan's attention, with imperialism and genocide. While in [[Deneb]], he discovered the [[Knossos]] technology, a way of going to the Shivans rather than having them come to him.		*The [[NTF]] was Bosch's attempt to attract the Shivan's attention, with imperialism and genocide. While in [[Deneb]], he discovered the [[Knossos]] technology, a way of going to the Shivans rather than having them come to him.

	[[Category: Shivan ~~Theories~~]]		[[Category: Shivan theories]]

TopAce: moved Mars's Theory to Mars's theory

2011-07-23T09:50:08Z

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SypheDMar at 23:45, 27 May 2009

2009-05-27T23:45:06Z

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	===Shivans in FreeSpace 1 are just as powerful as Shivans in FreeSpace 2:===		===Shivans in FreeSpace 1 are just as powerful as Shivans in FreeSpace 2:===
	Since the Shivans ~~orininally~~ arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of Shivan technology since the Ancients were wiped out.		Since the Shivans originally arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of Shivan technology since the Ancients were wiped out.

	===Shivan Intentions===		===Shivan Intentions===

Monitor: better?

2009-03-16T22:02:01Z

better?

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	===Shivan Intentions===		===Shivan Intentions===
	[[Admiral Bosch]] viewed the conflict with the Shivans as the outcome of a terrible misunderstanding, and [[Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance\|Allied Command]] does seem to go out of its way to make sure Bosch has a chance to try making contact with the Shivans with [[ETAK]] by protecting him and the [[NTF Iceni]] in [[The Romans Blunder]], [[Rebels & Renegades]]. This suggests that the Shivans misinterpreted something the Terrans and / or Vasudans had done prior to [[FreeSpace 1]]. It seems the [[GTI]] may have know of the existence of the Shivans even before the attack on [[Ross 128]] and Rivera Station. Rivera Station was the site of development for early shield prototypes [[GTM MX-50]], which makes one question where exactly this technology was coming from. Potentially, the GTI conducted experiments on Shivans very early, ~~possibly~~ triggering the attack, seeming like imperial attackers (like they were). When Bosch explained the GTI in no way represented humanity, the Shivans destroyed [[Capella]]'s sun as a warning of their power, and a message to leave them be, to prevent future conflict between the Shivans and Terrans.		[[Admiral Bosch]] viewed the conflict with the Shivans as the outcome of a terrible misunderstanding, and [[Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance\|Allied Command]] does seem to go out of its way to make sure Bosch has a chance to try making contact with the Shivans with [[ETAK]] by protecting him and the [[NTF Iceni]] in [[The Romans Blunder]], [[Rebels & Renegades]]. This suggests that the Shivans misinterpreted something the Terrans and / or Vasudans had done prior to [[FreeSpace 1]]. It seems the [[GTI]] may have know of the existence of the Shivans even before the attack on [[Ross 128]] and Rivera Station. Rivera Station was the site of development for early shield prototypes as per the tech description of the [[GTM MX-50]], which makes one question where exactly this shield technology was coming from. Since Shivans are the only race in the game at that point to possess mature shield technology, it seems likely the Rivera experiments were derived from Shivan technology. Potentially, the GTI conducted experiments on Shivans very early, triggering the attack, seeming like imperial attackers (like they were). When Bosch explained the GTI in no way represented humanity, the Shivans destroyed [[Capella]]'s sun as a warning of their power, and a message to leave them be, to prevent future conflict between the Shivans and Terrans.

	===Breakdown===		===Breakdown===

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2009-03-16T20:46:19Z

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	==The Mighty Shivans==		==The Mighty Shivans==
	The Shivans are often underestemated by many people, case and point ~~The~~ [[Shivan Manifesto]]. The [[Shivan]]s however have shown themselves in [[FreeSpace 2]] to be an ~~incredibley~~ powerful force. The [[Shivans]] are always the same [[Shivans]] in both games, with the same level of technology. They do not care as to how many losses they take, they are there to prevent anyone from gaining too much power through exploitation of the galaxy and its inhabitants, such as the [[Ancients]].		The Shivans are often underestemated by many people, case and point the [[Shivan Manifesto]]. The [[Shivan]]s, however, have shown themselves in [[FreeSpace 2]] to be an incredibly powerful force. The Shivans are always the same Shivans in both games, with the same level of technology. They do not care as to how many losses they take, they are there to prevent anyone from gaining too much power through exploitation of the galaxy and its inhabitants, such as the [[Ancients]].

	===Shivans in FreeSpace 1 are just as powerful as Shivans in FreeSpace 2:===		===Shivans in FreeSpace 1 are just as powerful as Shivans in FreeSpace 2:===
	Since the ~~[[Shivan]]s~~ orininally arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs, such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam-cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of [[Shivan]] technology since the [[Ancients]] were wiped out.		Since the Shivans orininally arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of Shivan technology since the Ancients were wiped out.

	===Shivan Intentions===		===Shivan Intentions===
	[[Admiral Bosch]] viewed the conflict with the [[Shivans]] as the outcome of a terrible misunderstanding, and [[~~GTVA~~\|Allied Command]] does seem to go out of its way to make sure Bosch has a chance to try making contact with the Shivans with [[ETAK]] by protecting him and the [[NTF Iceni]] in [[The Romans Blunder]], [[Rebels & Renegades]]. This suggests that the Shivans misinterpreted ~~somthing~~ the ~~[[Terran]]s~~ and / or ~~[[Vasudan]]s did~~ prior to [[FreeSpace 1]]. It seems the [[GTI]] may have know of the ~~existance~~ of the Shivans even before the attack on [[Ross 128]] and Rivera Station. Rivera Station was the site of development for early shield prototypes [[GTM MX-50]], which makes one question where exactly this technology was coming from. Potentially the [[GTI]] conducted ~~expiriments~~ on ~~[[Shivan]]s~~ very early, ~~possible~~ triggering the attack, seeming like imperial attackers (like they were). When Bosch explained the [[GTI]] in no way represented humanity, the [[Shivans]] destroyed [[Capella]]'s sun as a warning of their power, and a message to leave them be, to prevent future conflict between the [[Shivans]] and [[Terrans]].		[[Admiral Bosch]] viewed the conflict with the Shivans as the outcome of a terrible misunderstanding, and [[Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance\|Allied Command]] does seem to go out of its way to make sure Bosch has a chance to try making contact with the Shivans with [[ETAK]] by protecting him and the [[NTF Iceni]] in [[The Romans Blunder]], [[Rebels & Renegades]]. This suggests that the Shivans misinterpreted something the Terrans and / or Vasudans had done prior to [[FreeSpace 1]]. It seems the [[GTI]] may have know of the existence of the Shivans even before the attack on [[Ross 128]] and Rivera Station. Rivera Station was the site of development for early shield prototypes [[GTM MX-50]], which makes one question where exactly this technology was coming from. Potentially, the GTI conducted experiments on Shivans very early, possibly triggering the attack, seeming like imperial attackers (like they were). When Bosch explained the GTI in no way represented humanity, the Shivans destroyed [[Capella]]'s sun as a warning of their power, and a message to leave them be, to prevent future conflict between the Shivans and Terrans.

	===Breakdown===		===Breakdown===
	*The Shivans are there to prevent the exploitation of, and species in, the galaxy.		*The Shivans are there to prevent the exploitation of, and species in, the galaxy.
	*The Shivans encountered the GTI before the [[Great War]], resulting in the [[GTI]] stealing technology and ~~expirimenting~~ on Shivans, ~~apearing~~ as an imperial race.		*The Shivans encountered the GTI before the [[Great War]], resulting in the [[GTI]] stealing technology and experimenting on Shivans, appearing as an imperial race.
	*The Shivans have had ~~the of~~ the same technology since the [[Ancients]]		*The Shivans have had the same technology since the [[Ancients]]
	**The Shivans were unable to use their most powerful ships and most beam-cannons because both interfere with subspace, making the trip through the unstable nodes of [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]] impossible with such technology.		**The Shivans were unable to use their most powerful ships and most beam cannons because both interfere with subspace, making the trip through the unstable nodes of Ross 128 and Ikeya impossible with such technology.
	*[[Admiral Bosch]] set out to clear up the misunderstanding with the [[Shivans]] (the [[GTI]] did not represent the [[Terran]] race when it ~~expirimented~~ on them, and took over their space.) and the [[GTVA]] High Council allowed him to, while trying to look like they were attempting to capture them.		*Admiral Bosch set out to clear up the misunderstanding with the Shivans (the GTI did not represent the [[Terran]] race when it experimented on them, and took over their space.) and the GTVA High Council allowed him to, while trying to look like they were attempting to capture them.
	*The [[NTF]] was Bosch's attempt to attract the ~~Shivans~~ attention, with imperialism and genocide. While in [[Deneb]] he discovered the [[Knossos]] technology, a way of going to the [[Shivans]] rather than having them come to him.		*The [[NTF]] was Bosch's attempt to attract the Shivan's attention, with imperialism and genocide. While in [[Deneb]], he discovered the [[Knossos]] technology, a way of going to the Shivans rather than having them come to him.


	[[Category: Shivan Theories]]		[[Category: Shivan Theories]]

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2009-02-11T22:13:20Z

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	==The Mighty Shivans==		==The Mighty Shivans==
	The Shivans are often underestemated by many people, case and point The [[Shivan Manifesto]]. The [[Shivan]]s however have shown themselves in [[~~Freespace~~ 2]] to be an incredibley powerful force. The [[Shivans]] are always the same [[Shivans]] in both games, with the same level of technology. They do not care as to how many losses they take, they are there to prevent anyone from gaining too much power through exploitation of the galaxy and its inhabitants, such as the [[Ancients]].		The Shivans are often underestemated by many people, case and point The [[Shivan Manifesto]]. The [[Shivan]]s however have shown themselves in [[FreeSpace 2]] to be an incredibley powerful force. The [[Shivans]] are always the same [[Shivans]] in both games, with the same level of technology. They do not care as to how many losses they take, they are there to prevent anyone from gaining too much power through exploitation of the galaxy and its inhabitants, such as the [[Ancients]].
	===Shivans in ~~Freespace~~ 1 are just as powerful as Shivans in ~~Freespace~~ 2:===		===Shivans in FreeSpace 1 are just as powerful as Shivans in FreeSpace 2:===
	Since the [[Shivan]]s orininally arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs, such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam-cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of [[Shivan]] technology since the [[Ancients]] were wiped out.		Since the [[Shivan]]s orininally arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs, such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam-cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of [[Shivan]] technology since the [[Ancients]] were wiped out.
	===Shivan Intentions===		===Shivan Intentions===
	[[Admiral Bosch]] viewed the conflict with the [[Shivans]] as the outcome of a terrible misunderstanding, and [[GTVA\|Allied Command]] does seem to go out of its way to make sure Bosch has a chance to try making contact with the Shivans with [[ETAK]] by protecting him and the [[NTF Iceni]] in [[The Romans Blunder]], [[Rebels & Renegades]]. This suggests that the Shivans misinterpreted somthing the [[Terran]]s and / or [[Vasudan]]s did prior to [[~~Freespace~~ 1]]. It seems the [[GTI]] may have know of the existance of the Shivans even before the attack on [[Ross 128]] and Rivera Station. Rivera Station was the site of development for early shield prototypes [[GTM MX-50]], which makes one question where exactly this technology was coming from. Potentially the [[GTI]] conducted expiriments on [[Shivan]]s very early, possible triggering the attack, seeming like imperial attackers (like they were). When Bosch explained the [[GTI]] in no way represented humanity, the [[Shivans]] destroyed [[Capella]]'s sun as a warning of their power, and a message to leave them be, to prevent future conflict between the [[Shivans]] and [[Terrans]].		[[Admiral Bosch]] viewed the conflict with the [[Shivans]] as the outcome of a terrible misunderstanding, and [[GTVA\|Allied Command]] does seem to go out of its way to make sure Bosch has a chance to try making contact with the Shivans with [[ETAK]] by protecting him and the [[NTF Iceni]] in [[The Romans Blunder]], [[Rebels & Renegades]]. This suggests that the Shivans misinterpreted somthing the [[Terran]]s and / or [[Vasudan]]s did prior to [[FreeSpace 1]]. It seems the [[GTI]] may have know of the existance of the Shivans even before the attack on [[Ross 128]] and Rivera Station. Rivera Station was the site of development for early shield prototypes [[GTM MX-50]], which makes one question where exactly this technology was coming from. Potentially the [[GTI]] conducted expiriments on [[Shivan]]s very early, possible triggering the attack, seeming like imperial attackers (like they were). When Bosch explained the [[GTI]] in no way represented humanity, the [[Shivans]] destroyed [[Capella]]'s sun as a warning of their power, and a message to leave them be, to prevent future conflict between the [[Shivans]] and [[Terrans]].

	===Breakdown===		===Breakdown===

Ks07: /* Shivan Intentions */ Fixed some typos.

2008-08-20T20:32:41Z

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	Since the [[Shivan]]s orininally arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs, such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam-cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of [[Shivan]] technology since the [[Ancients]] were wiped out.		Since the [[Shivan]]s orininally arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs, such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam-cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of [[Shivan]] technology since the [[Ancients]] were wiped out.
	===Shivan Intentions===		===Shivan Intentions===
	[[Admiral Bosch]] ~~veiwed~~ the conflict with the [[Shivans]] as the outcome of a terrible misunderstanding, and [[GTVA\|Allied Command]] does seem to go out of its way to make sure Bosch has a chance to try making contact with the Shivans with [[ETAK]] by protecting him and the [[NTF Iceni]] in [[The Romans Blunder]], [[Rebels & Renegades]]. This suggests that the Shivans ~~misinterperated~~ somthing the [[Terran]]s and / or [[Vasudan]]s did prior to [[Freespace 1]]. It seems the [[GTI]] may have know of the existance of the Shivans even before the attack on [[Ross 128]] and Rivera Station. Rivera Station was the site of development for early shield prototypes [[GTM MX-50]], which makes one question where exactly this technology was coming from. Potentially the [[GTI]] conducted expiriments on [[Shivan]]s very early, possible triggering the attack, seeming like imperial attackers (like they were). When Bosch explained the [[GTI]] in no way represented humanity, the [[Shivans]] destroyed [[Capella]]'s sun as a warning of their power, and a message to leave them be, to prevent future conflict ~~with the~~ between the [[Shivans]] and [[Terrans]].		[[Admiral Bosch]] viewed the conflict with the [[Shivans]] as the outcome of a terrible misunderstanding, and [[GTVA\|Allied Command]] does seem to go out of its way to make sure Bosch has a chance to try making contact with the Shivans with [[ETAK]] by protecting him and the [[NTF Iceni]] in [[The Romans Blunder]], [[Rebels & Renegades]]. This suggests that the Shivans misinterpreted somthing the [[Terran]]s and / or [[Vasudan]]s did prior to [[Freespace 1]]. It seems the [[GTI]] may have know of the existance of the Shivans even before the attack on [[Ross 128]] and Rivera Station. Rivera Station was the site of development for early shield prototypes [[GTM MX-50]], which makes one question where exactly this technology was coming from. Potentially the [[GTI]] conducted expiriments on [[Shivan]]s very early, possible triggering the attack, seeming like imperial attackers (like they were). When Bosch explained the [[GTI]] in no way represented humanity, the [[Shivans]] destroyed [[Capella]]'s sun as a warning of their power, and a message to leave them be, to prevent future conflict between the [[Shivans]] and [[Terrans]].

	===Breakdown===		===Breakdown===
	*The Shivans are there to prevent the exploitation of, and species in, the galaxy.		*The Shivans are there to prevent the exploitation of, and species in, the galaxy.

Moniter at 01:35, 2 October 2006

2006-10-02T01:35:24Z

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	*[[Admiral Bosch]] set out to clear up the misunderstanding with the [[Shivans]] (the [[GTI]] did not represent the [[Terran]] race when it expirimented on them, and took over their space.) and the [[GTVA]] High Council allowed him to, while trying to look like they were attempting to capture them.		*[[Admiral Bosch]] set out to clear up the misunderstanding with the [[Shivans]] (the [[GTI]] did not represent the [[Terran]] race when it expirimented on them, and took over their space.) and the [[GTVA]] High Council allowed him to, while trying to look like they were attempting to capture them.
	*The [[NTF]] was Bosch's attempt to attract the Shivans attention, with imperialism and genocide. While in [[Deneb]] he discovered the [[Knossos]] technology, a way of going to the [[Shivans]] rather than having them come to him.		*The [[NTF]] was Bosch's attempt to attract the Shivans attention, with imperialism and genocide. While in [[Deneb]] he discovered the [[Knossos]] technology, a way of going to the [[Shivans]] rather than having them come to him.


			[[Category: Shivan Theories]]

Moniter at 23:39, 11 April 2006

2006-04-11T23:39:59Z

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	==The Mighty Shivans==		==The Mighty Shivans==
	The Shivans are often underestemated by many people, case and point The [[Shivan Manifesto]]. The [[Shivan]]s however have shown themselves in [[Freespace 2]] to be an incredibley powerful force. The [[Shivans]] are always the same [[Shivans]] in both games. They do not care as to how many losses they take, they are there to prevent anyone from gaining too much power through exploitation of the galaxy, such as the [[Ancients]].		The Shivans are often underestemated by many people, case and point The [[Shivan Manifesto]]. The [[Shivan]]s however have shown themselves in [[Freespace 2]] to be an incredibley powerful force. The [[Shivans]] are always the same [[Shivans]] in both games, with the same level of technology. They do not care as to how many losses they take, they are there to prevent anyone from gaining too much power through exploitation of the galaxy and its inhabitants, such as the [[Ancients]].
	===Shivans in Freespace 1 are just as powerful as Shivans in Freespace 2:===		===Shivans in Freespace 1 are just as powerful as Shivans in Freespace 2:===
	Since the [[Shivan]]s orininally arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs, such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam-cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of [[Shivan]] technology since the [[Ancients]] were wiped out.		Since the [[Shivan]]s orininally arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs, such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam-cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of [[Shivan]] technology since the [[Ancients]] were wiped out.

Moniter: /* The Mighty Shivans */

2006-04-11T23:38:42Z

The Mighty Shivans

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	==The Mighty Shivans==		==The Mighty Shivans==
	The Shivans are often underestemated by many people, case and point [[~~The~~ Shivan Manifesto]]. The [[Shivan]]s however have shown themselves in [[Freespace 2]] to be an incredibley powerful force. The [[Shivans]] are always the same [[Shivans]] in both games. They do not care as to how many losses they take, they are there to prevent anyone from gaining too much power through exploitation of the galaxy, such as the [[Ancients]].		The Shivans are often underestemated by many people, case and point The [[Shivan Manifesto]]. The [[Shivan]]s however have shown themselves in [[Freespace 2]] to be an incredibley powerful force. The [[Shivans]] are always the same [[Shivans]] in both games. They do not care as to how many losses they take, they are there to prevent anyone from gaining too much power through exploitation of the galaxy, such as the [[Ancients]].
	===Shivans in Freespace 1 are just as powerful as Shivans in Freespace 2:===		===Shivans in Freespace 1 are just as powerful as Shivans in Freespace 2:===
	Since the [[Shivan]]s orininally arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs, such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam-cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of [[Shivan]] technology since the [[Ancients]] were wiped out.		Since the [[Shivan]]s orininally arrived in [[Terran]]/[[Vasudan]] systems through unstable jump nodes in the [[Ross 128]] and [[Ikeya]], their ships had to be as subspace-worthy as possible. Certain designs, such as the [[SC Cain]], [[SF Scorpion]], and [[SD Demon]] were much more subspace capable than other, seemingly more advanced designs such as the [[SC Rakshasa]], [[SF Mara]], and the [[SD Ravana]], and even the [[SJ Sathanas]]. Beam-cannons also tend to interfere with a vessels subspace transit, therefore the only vessel in the first Shivan fleet to attack the [[GTA]] and [[PVN]] was the [[SD Lucifer]]. In fact, there has been no progress of [[Shivan]] technology since the [[Ancients]] were wiped out.