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	An oldie but goodie. You've seen them in [[Derelict]], and here's how to make them yourself.		An oldie but goodie. You've seen them in [[Derelict]], and here's how to make them yourself.

	First of all, although this may change in the future, there is currently no "Mine" ship/weapon type in FreeSpace. This means all the mechanics of the minefield have to be constructed by hand, using events and certain ship properties. For now, we'll imagine using the [[~~Containers#TTC_1\|~~TTC 1]] container - The very same one used in Derelict.		First of all, although this may change in the future, there is currently no "Mine" ship/weapon type in FreeSpace. This means all the mechanics of the minefield have to be constructed by hand, using events and certain ship properties. For now, we'll imagine using the [[TTC 1]] container - The very same one used in Derelict.
	===Preparation===		===Preparation===
	The first thing to do is to lay down the containers in the desired pattern. Once that is done, enter the ships editor and enable "Special Explosion" for each of the containers. While doing this, also adjust the size and strength of the explosion to fit the mission, as the default may not be suitable for your needs. With that done, we move on to the events editor:		The first thing to do is to lay down the containers in the desired pattern. Once that is done, enter the ships editor and enable "Special Explosion" for each of the containers. While doing this, also adjust the size and strength of the explosion to fit the mission, as the default may not be suitable for your needs. With that done, we move on to the events editor:

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2008-10-02T14:52:31Z

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	===Event===		===Event===
	[[Image:Mine_event_standard.JPG\|left\|Sample minefield event]]Set up an event like the one pictured on the left. The [[when-argument]] conditional SEXP used in this event is something that was not available to the makers of Derelict, and in a situation like this it is quite a time saver. Those not using the SCP will have to make a ~~seperate~~ event for each mine in the minefield, but otherwise the principle is the same as that described below. As we are using the SCP-only SEXP in this example, we first have to set up an argument list that contains the names of the objects which are doubling as mines. These have to be typed in by hand, as ship names do not appear in the "Add Data" section for argument lists.		[[Image:Mine_event_standard.JPG\|left\|Sample minefield event]]Set up an event like the one pictured on the left. The [[when-argument]] conditional SEXP used in this event is something that was not available to the makers of Derelict, and in a situation like this it is quite a time saver. Those not using the SCP will have to make a separate event for each mine in the minefield, but otherwise the principle is the same as that described below. As we are using the SCP-only SEXP in this example, we first have to set up an argument list that contains the names of the objects which are doubling as mines. These have to be typed in by hand, as ship names do not appear in the "Add Data" section for argument lists.

	The second part of the event is a distance check, which in this case evaluates if any friendlies are within 250m of ''any one'' of the mines - That's why we're using an argument list, so we don't need a ~~seperate~~ event for each mine. And finally, if any friendlies do come close enough to a mine, we first set it to vaporize with the [[ship-vaporize]] as this type of explosion is faster, and then it is destroyed using [[self-destruct]].		The second part of the event is a distance check, which in this case evaluates if any friendlies are within 250m of ''any one'' of the mines. That's why we're using an argument list, so we don't need a separate event for each mine. And finally, if any friendlies do come close enough to a mine, we first set it to vaporize with the [[ship-vaporize]] as this type of explosion is faster, and then it is destroyed using [[self-destruct]].

	As the last touch, invalidate the used argument, and then set the repeat count on the event to the number of mines in the minefield - Else only one mine will ever detonate.		As the last touch, invalidate the used argument, and then set the repeat count on the event to the number of mines in the minefield. Else only one mine will ever detonate.

	Now, this in itself does not create a mine. But combined with the special explosion we enabled earlier, any container that is destroyed is going to go out with a bang, and any ships that are close enough are going to take damage. And that's all there is to it.		Now, this in itself does not create a mine. But combined with the special explosion we enabled earlier, any container that is destroyed is going to go out with a bang, and any ships that are close enough are going to take damage. And that's all there is to it.

	===Balance===		===Balance===
	Things to vary depending on mission needs are the size and strength of the special explosion, the trigger distance, density and number of mines, as well as which ships are able to trigger them. In some cases, it may be prudent to limit the trigger to only work for player ships, as the AI is not equipped to deal effectively with the threat of mines.		Things that vary depending on mission needs are the size and strength of the special explosion, the trigger distance, density and number of mines, as well as which ships are able to trigger them. In some cases, it may be prudent to limit the trigger to only work for player ships, as the AI is not equipped to deal effectively with the threat of mines.

	One word of warning, though: Minefields should be used sparingly. They can work well as a novelty and a change of pace, but if a player is faced with them on every other assault mission, they can go from interesting to tedious very quickly.		One word of warning, though: Minefields should be used sparingly. They can work well as a novelty and a change of pace, but if a player is faced with them on every other assault mission, they can go from interesting to tedious very quickly.
	[[Category:FRED Examples]]		[[Category:FRED Examples]]

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	===Event===		===Event===
	[[Image:Mine_event_standard.~~jpg~~\|left\|Sample minefield event]]Set up an event like the one pictured on the left. The [[when-argument]] conditional SEXP used in this event is something that was not available to the makers of Derelict, and in a situation like this it is quite a time saver. Those not using the SCP will have to make a seperate event for each mine in the minefield, but otherwise the principle is the same as that described below. As we are using the SCP-only SEXP in this example, we first have to set up an argument list that contains the names of the objects which are doubling as mines. These have to be typed in by hand, as ship names do not appear in the "Add Data" section for argument lists.		[[Image:Mine_event_standard.JPG\|left\|Sample minefield event]]Set up an event like the one pictured on the left. The [[when-argument]] conditional SEXP used in this event is something that was not available to the makers of Derelict, and in a situation like this it is quite a time saver. Those not using the SCP will have to make a seperate event for each mine in the minefield, but otherwise the principle is the same as that described below. As we are using the SCP-only SEXP in this example, we first have to set up an argument list that contains the names of the objects which are doubling as mines. These have to be typed in by hand, as ship names do not appear in the "Add Data" section for argument lists.

	The second part of the event is a distance check, which in this case evaluates if any friendlies are within 250m of ''any one'' of the mines - That's why we're using an argument list, so we don't need a seperate event for each mine. And finally, if any friendlies do come close enough to a mine, we first set it to vaporize with the [[ship-vaporize]] as this type of explosion is faster, and then it is destroyed using [[self-destruct]].		The second part of the event is a distance check, which in this case evaluates if any friendlies are within 250m of ''any one'' of the mines - That's why we're using an argument list, so we don't need a seperate event for each mine. And finally, if any friendlies do come close enough to a mine, we first set it to vaporize with the [[ship-vaporize]] as this type of explosion is faster, and then it is destroyed using [[self-destruct]].

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2007-08-11T12:24:26Z

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	===Event===		===Event===
	[[Image:~~Mine_event_new~~.jpg\|left\|Sample minefield event]]Set up an event like the one pictured on the left. The [[when-argument]] conditional SEXP used in this event is something that was not available to the makers of Derelict, and in a situation like this it is quite a time saver. Those not using the SCP will have to make a seperate event for each mine in the minefield, but otherwise the principle is the same as that described below. As we are using the SCP-only SEXP in this example, we first have to set up an argument list that contains the names of the objects which are doubling as mines. These have to be typed in by hand, as ship names do not appear in the "Add Data" section for argument lists.		[[Image:Mine_event_standard.jpg\|left\|Sample minefield event]]Set up an event like the one pictured on the left. The [[when-argument]] conditional SEXP used in this event is something that was not available to the makers of Derelict, and in a situation like this it is quite a time saver. Those not using the SCP will have to make a seperate event for each mine in the minefield, but otherwise the principle is the same as that described below. As we are using the SCP-only SEXP in this example, we first have to set up an argument list that contains the names of the objects which are doubling as mines. These have to be typed in by hand, as ship names do not appear in the "Add Data" section for argument lists.

	The second part of the event is a distance check, which in this case evaluates if any friendlies are within 250m of ''any one'' of the mines - That's why we're using an argument list, so we don't need a seperate event for each mine. And finally, if any friendlies do come close enough to a mine, we first set it to vaporize with the [[ship-vaporize]] as this type of explosion is faster, and then it is destroyed using [[self-destruct]].		The second part of the event is a distance check, which in this case evaluates if any friendlies are within 250m of ''any one'' of the mines - That's why we're using an argument list, so we don't need a seperate event for each mine. And finally, if any friendlies do come close enough to a mine, we first set it to vaporize with the [[ship-vaporize]] as this type of explosion is faster, and then it is destroyed using [[self-destruct]].

	As the last touch, we set the repeat count on the event to the number of mines in the minefield~~, else~~ only one mine will ever detonate.		As the last touch, invalidate the used argument, and then set the repeat count on the event to the number of mines in the minefield - Else only one mine will ever detonate.

	Now, this in itself does not create a mine. But combined with the special explosion we enabled earlier, any container that is destroyed is going to go out with a bang, and any ships that are close enough are going to take damage. And that's all there is to it.		Now, this in itself does not create a mine. But combined with the special explosion we enabled earlier, any container that is destroyed is going to go out with a bang, and any ships that are close enough are going to take damage. And that's all there is to it.

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2007-08-10T20:33:03Z

Updated with Goober's suggestions, plus better layout

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	First of all, although this may change in the future, there is currently no "Mine" ship/weapon type in FreeSpace. This means all the mechanics of the minefield have to be constructed by hand, using events and certain ship properties. For now, we'll imagine using the [[Containers#TTC_1\|TTC 1]] container - The very same one used in Derelict.		First of all, although this may change in the future, there is currently no "Mine" ship/weapon type in FreeSpace. This means all the mechanics of the minefield have to be constructed by hand, using events and certain ship properties. For now, we'll imagine using the [[Containers#TTC_1\|TTC 1]] container - The very same one used in Derelict.
			===Preparation===
			The first thing to do is to lay down the containers in the desired pattern. Once that is done, enter the ships editor and enable "Special Explosion" for each of the containers. While doing this, also adjust the size and strength of the explosion to fit the mission, as the default may not be suitable for your needs. With that done, we move on to the events editor:

	The ~~first thing to do~~ is to ~~lay down~~ the ~~containers~~ in ~~the desired pattern~~. ~~Once that is done, enter~~ the ~~ships editor and enable "Special Explosion"~~ for each of the ~~containers~~. ~~While doing~~ this, ~~also adjust~~ the ~~size and strength~~ of the ~~explosion~~ to ~~fit the mission~~, as the ~~default may not be suitable~~ for ~~your needs~~.		===Event===
			[[Image:Mine_event_new.jpg\|left\|Sample minefield event]]Set up an event like the one pictured on the left. The [[when-argument]] conditional SEXP used in this event is something that was not available to the makers of Derelict, and in a situation like this it is quite a time saver. Those not using the SCP will have to make a seperate event for each mine in the minefield, but otherwise the principle is the same as that described below. As we are using the SCP-only SEXP in this example, we first have to set up an argument list that contains the names of the objects which are doubling as mines. These have to be typed in by hand, as ship names do not appear in the "Add Data" section for argument lists.

	~~With that done, enter~~ the ~~events editor and make an event like this:~~		The second part of the event is a distance check, which in this case evaluates if any friendlies are within 250m of ''any one'' of the mines - That's why we're using an argument list, so we don't need a seperate event for each mine. And finally, if any friendlies do come close enough to a mine, we first set it to vaporize with the [[ship-vaporize]] as this type of explosion is faster, and then it is destroyed using [[self-destruct]].
	~~[[Image:Mine_event.jpg\|left\|Sample minefield event]]The [[Every-time-argument\|every-time-argument]] conditional SEXP used in this~~ event is ~~something that was not available to the makers of Derelict~~, ~~and~~ in ~~a situation like~~ this ~~it is quite a time saver. Those not~~ using ~~the SCP will have to make~~ a seperate event for each mine ~~in the minefield~~, ~~but otherwise the principle is the same as that described below. As we are using the SCP-only SEXP in this example~~, we first ~~have~~ to ~~set up an argument list that contains~~ the ~~names~~ of ~~the objects which are doubling as mines. These have to be typed in by hand~~, ~~as ship names do not appear in the "Add Data" section for argument lists~~.

	~~The second part of~~ the event ~~is a distance check, which~~ in ~~this case evaluates if any friendlies are within 250m of ''any one'' of~~ the ~~mines - That's why we're using an argument list~~, ~~so we don't need a seperate event for each~~ mine~~. And finally, if any friendlies do come close enough to a mine, it is destroyed using [[Sabotage-subsystem\|sabotage-subystem]] for 110% of its health~~.		As the last touch, we set the repeat count on the event to the number of mines in the minefield, else only one mine will ever detonate.

	Now, this in itself does not create a mine. But combined with the special explosion we enabled earlier, any container that is destroyed is going to go out with a bang, and any ships that are close enough are going to take damage. And that's all there is to it.		Now, this in itself does not create a mine. But combined with the special explosion we enabled earlier, any container that is destroyed is going to go out with a bang, and any ships that are close enough are going to take damage. And that's all there is to it.

			===Balance===
	Things to vary depending on mission needs are the size and strength of the special explosion, the trigger distance, density and number of mines, as well as which ships are able to trigger them. In some cases, it may be prudent to limit the trigger to only work for player ships, as the AI is not equipped to deal effectively with the threat of mines.		Things to vary depending on mission needs are the size and strength of the special explosion, the trigger distance, density and number of mines, as well as which ships are able to trigger them. In some cases, it may be prudent to limit the trigger to only work for player ships, as the AI is not equipped to deal effectively with the threat of mines.

	One word of warning, though: Minefields should be used sparingly. They can work well as a novelty and a change of pace, but if a player is faced with them on every other assault mission, they can go from interesting to tedious very quickly.		One word of warning, though: Minefields should be used sparingly. They can work well as a novelty and a change of pace, but if a player is faced with them on every other assault mission, they can go from interesting to tedious very quickly.
	[[Category:FRED Examples]]		[[Category:FRED Examples]]

Shade: New page: An oldie but goodie. You've seen them in Derelict, and here's how to make them yourself. First of all, although this may change in the future, there is currently no "Mine" ship/weapon...

2007-07-30T22:58:17Z

New page: An oldie but goodie. You've seen them in Derelict, and here's how to make them yourself. First of all, although this may change in the future, there is currently no "Mine" ship/weapon...

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An oldie but goodie. You've seen them in [[Derelict]], and here's how to make them yourself.

First of all, although this may change in the future, there is currently no "Mine" ship/weapon type in FreeSpace. This means all the mechanics of the minefield have to be constructed by hand, using events and certain ship properties. For now, we'll imagine using the [[Containers#TTC_1|TTC 1]] container - The very same one used in Derelict.

The first thing to do is to lay down the containers in the desired pattern. Once that is done, enter the ships editor and enable "Special Explosion" for each of the containers. While doing this, also adjust the size and strength of the explosion to fit the mission, as the default may not be suitable for your needs.

With that done, enter the events editor and make an event like this:
[[Image:Mine_event.jpg|left|Sample minefield event]]The [[Every-time-argument|every-time-argument]] conditional SEXP used in this event is something that was not available to the makers of Derelict, and in a situation like this it is quite a time saver. Those not using the SCP will have to make a seperate event for each mine in the minefield, but otherwise the principle is the same as that described below. As we are using the SCP-only SEXP in this example, we first have to set up an argument list that contains the names of the objects which are doubling as mines. These have to be typed in by hand, as ship names do not appear in the "Add Data" section for argument lists.

The second part of the event is a distance check, which in this case evaluates if any friendlies are within 250m of ''any one'' of the mines - That's why we're using an argument list, so we don't need a seperate event for each mine. And finally, if any friendlies do come close enough to a mine, it is destroyed using [[Sabotage-subsystem|sabotage-subystem]] for 110% of its health.

Now, this in itself does not create a mine. But combined with the special explosion we enabled earlier, any container that is destroyed is going to go out with a bang, and any ships that are close enough are going to take damage. And that's all there is to it.

Things to vary depending on mission needs are the size and strength of the special explosion, the trigger distance, density and number of mines, as well as which ships are able to trigger them. In some cases, it may be prudent to limit the trigger to only work for player ships, as the AI is not equipped to deal effectively with the threat of mines.

One word of warning, though: Minefields should be used sparingly. They can work well as a novelty and a change of pace, but if a player is faced with them on every other assault mission, they can go from interesting to tedious very quickly.
[[Category:FRED Examples]]