SCv Moloch - Revision history

Meganew: /* Veteran Comments */

2022-05-26T07:28:32Z

Veteran Comments

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	Vanilla Moloch is also notably buggy, but no bugged features are ever used in main campaign. No dockpoint of vanilla Moloch is set correctly, as top one is floating above the neck, and below one is submerged within the hull. Additionally the bottom dockpoint is one of infamous dockpoints named 'blahblah'. Fighterbay paths of Moloch leads straight into it's main engine, so it's ill-advised to use fighterbay of vanilla Moloch in custom missions. Mentioned issues got fixed with introduction of reworked model.}}		Vanilla Moloch is also notably buggy, but no bugged features are ever used in main campaign. No dockpoint of vanilla Moloch is set correctly, as top one is floating above the neck, and below one is submerged within the hull. Additionally the bottom dockpoint is one of infamous dockpoints named 'blahblah'. Fighterbay paths of Moloch leads straight into it's main engine, so it's ill-advised to use fighterbay of vanilla Moloch in custom missions. Mentioned issues got fixed with introduction of reworked model.


			Main reason people likely consider the Deimos superior to the Moloch is the fact that multiple slashes from the Deimos's forward or side guns will quickly disarm large portions of the Moloch's turret defenses due to their low health. Unless they're a significant enough distance away, or the Moloch is actively commanded to target the Deimos's beams, eventually the latter will slip by the former and continue to duel with it in a battle of broadsides leading to an inevitable Terran victory.}}


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Meganew: /* Gallery */

2021-10-08T07:49:11Z

Gallery

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	==Gallery==		==Gallery==
	<gallery ~~mode="packed-hover" heights="300px"~~>		<gallery>
	Image:Moloch480x340.jpg \| ~~<center>~~ 3.6.10 SCv Moloch.		Image:Moloch480x340.jpg \| 3.6.10 SCv Moloch.
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	==Veteran Comments==		==Veteran Comments==

MatthTheGeek at 17:37, 21 September 2020

2020-09-21T17:37:35Z

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	==Modding Resources==		==Modding Resources==
	[[Image:~~Moloch_MVP~~.jpg\|thumb\|right\|700px\|The {{PAGENAME}} in the latest MVP]]		[[Image:Moloch_MVP2.jpg\|thumb\|right\|700px\|The {{PAGENAME}} in the latest MVP]]
	'''Retail''':		'''Retail''':
	:$POF File: corvette2s-01.pof<br>		:$POF File: corvette2s-01.pof<br>

MatthTheGeek at 16:13, 21 September 2020

2020-09-21T16:13:38Z

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	==Modding Resources==		==Modding Resources==
	~~{{shipimage\|image=~~[[Image:~~Moloch480x340~~.jpg]]\|~~caption=3.6.10 SCv Moloch~~}}		[[Image:Moloch_MVP.jpg\|thumb\|right\|700px\|The {{PAGENAME}} in the latest MVP]]
	'''Retail''':~~<br>~~		'''Retail''':
	:$POF File: corvette2s-01.pof<br>		:$POF File: corvette2s-01.pof<br>
	:Textures: CorvSTile1(A/B/C), CorvSTile2(A/B/C), CorvSTile3(A/B/C), CorvSTile4(A/B/C), CorvSTile5B<br>		:Textures: CorvSTile1(A/B/C), CorvSTile2(A/B/C), CorvSTile3(A/B/C), CorvSTile4(A/B/C), CorvSTile5B<br>
			<br>
	'''MediaVP 3.6.10''':~~<br>~~		'''MediaVP 3.6.10''':
	:$POF File: corvette2s-01.pof<br>		:$POF File: corvette2s-01.pof<br>
	:Textures: CorvSTile1, CorvSTile2, CorvSTile3, CorvSTile4, CruisTileS1, MinerTile2<br>		:Textures: CorvSTile1, CorvSTile2, CorvSTile3, CorvSTile4, CruisTileS1, MinerTile2<br>
	~~<br>~~
	[http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,36647.0.html History]<br>		[http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,36647.0.html History]<br>
	First WIP Post: WeatherOp on 11/10/2005<br>		First WIP Post: WeatherOp on 11/10/2005<br>
	First In-Game Model: ~~???~~ on ???<br>		<br>
	Completed In-Game Model: ~~???~~ on ???<br>		'''MediaVP 4.1.X''':
	~~Final Corrections~~: ~~??? on ???~~<br>		:$POF File: Moloch.pof
			:Textures: MolochMain, MolochDet, STurrets01, MolochDead, damage
			[https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=86549.0 History]<br>
			First WIP Post: Rga_Norris on 2014/01/12<br>
			First In-Game Model: Nyctaeus on ???<br>
			Completed In-Game Model: Nyctaeus on ???<br>

			==Gallery==
			<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="300px">
			Image:Moloch480x340.jpg \| <center> 3.6.10 SCv Moloch.
			</gallery>

Nyctaeus at 04:24, 25 August 2020

2020-08-25T04:24:09Z

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	Carreful examination of vanilla mesh provides interesting find. Turret02 is notably larger and unlike actual beam cannons, ~~it's~~ the only unique turret ~~model~~ of the ship. Also, Moloch is the only FS2-exclusive, shivan capship without unique models of beam emmiters. Those facts makes me believe, that Turret02 was it's original main weaponry but like Rakshasa, Moloch has fallen prey to Volition's nerfs. Pair of anti-fighter turrets located below Turret02 seems to be supporting this theory, as they were supposed to protect it's original, main beam emitter. Fanmade campaigns frequently replace this turret with additional beam cannon.		Carreful examination of vanilla mesh provides interesting find. Turret02 is notably larger and unlike actual beam cannons, this and Turret03 are the only unique turret models of the ship. Also, Moloch is the only FS2-exclusive, shivan capship without unique models of beam emmiters. Those facts makes me believe, that Turret02 was it's original main weaponry but like Rakshasa, Moloch has fallen prey to Volition's nerfs. Pair of anti-fighter turrets located below Turret02 seems to be supporting this theory, as they were supposed to protect it's original, main beam emitter. Fanmade campaigns frequently replace this turret with additional beam cannon.

Nyctaeus: veteran comments

2020-08-25T04:19:20Z

veteran comments

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	Don't be fooled by the large 'eye' in the front- it's just a blob turret, though it should be an anti-cap beam. If you've ever flown against one of these, you know the first thing to do is take out the [[GTM Piranha\|Piranha]] turrets, otherwise you'll be ripped apart. They explode at the same time as another is launched, so watch out. The best way to take one of these out is to use [[GTM Trebuchet\|Trebuchets]] to destroy all the missile turrets, then send in a wing of bombers while you deal with the fighters. Be warned, the underside has some serious anti-fighter power, so you'll quickly be battered by several blobs, swarming heat-seekers, and at least one flak.		Don't be fooled by the large 'eye' in the front- it's just a blob turret, though it should be an anti-cap beam. If you've ever flown against one of these, you know the first thing to do is take out the [[GTM Piranha\|Piranha]] turrets, otherwise you'll be ripped apart. They explode at the same time as another is launched, so watch out. The best way to take one of these out is to use [[GTM Trebuchet\|Trebuchets]] to destroy all the missile turrets, then send in a wing of bombers while you deal with the fighters. Be warned, the underside has some serious anti-fighter power, so you'll quickly be battered by several blobs, swarming heat-seekers, and at least one flak.

	The Moloch's turret strength is very weak, making this ship easy to disarm.}}
			The Moloch's turret strength is very weak, making this ship easy to disarm.


			It's another example of tech description that is nothing, but a lie. Although Moloch is armed with three [[SRed\|SReds]], she can't focus more then two on single target making it only slightly more powerful opponent then Cain. Opening volley of Rakshasa is far more devastating then any attack a Moloch can utilize, not to mention Lilith. Additionally, this corvette is not armed with any anti-fighter beams, and turrets are covered in paper-thin armor, so it's easy to take down flak cannons and missile launchers even with basic primaries. However, Moloch's hull is extremely durable. Don't be surprised to see disarmed Molochs in fanmade campaigns, just sitting ducks and awaiting for inevitable death.


			Carreful examination of vanilla mesh provides interesting find. Turret02 is notably larger and unlike actual beam cannons, it's the only unique turret model of the ship. Also, Moloch is the only FS2-exclusive, shivan capship without unique models of beam emmiters. Those facts makes me believe, that Turret02 was it's original main weaponry but like Rakshasa, Moloch has fallen prey to Volition's nerfs. Pair of anti-fighter turrets located below Turret02 seems to be supporting this theory, as they were supposed to protect it's original, main beam emitter. Fanmade campaigns frequently replace this turret with additional beam cannon.


			Vanilla Moloch is also notably buggy, but no bugged features are ever used in main campaign. No dockpoint of vanilla Moloch is set correctly, as top one is floating above the neck, and below one is submerged within the hull. Additionally the bottom dockpoint is one of infamous dockpoints named 'blahblah'. Fighterbay paths of Moloch leads straight into it's main engine, so it's ill-advised to use fighterbay of vanilla Moloch in custom missions. Mentioned issues got fixed with introduction of reworked model.}}


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SypheDMar: /* Veteran Comments */

2010-09-04T00:53:49Z

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	==Veteran Comments==		==Veteran Comments==
	{{comment\| The Moloch is an opponent to be taken seriously, despite all the negative commentary, and the statement a [[GTCv Deimos\|Deimos]] can take one on successfully is somewhat ~~debateable~~. Shivans use much more effective (and faster-cycling) direct-fire beams, of which the Moloch has three [[SRed]]-types. Like most Shivan capital craft, its ~~antifighter~~ defenses are rather less impressive than those of a comparable Terran ship. Despite this the Moloch's defenses are nonetheless probably the best, pound for pound, of any Shivan capital craft. It mounts a considerable number of flak guns, and they are well-positioned. The broadside flaks are placed in such a way as to make them difficult to target at range, but still provide good coverage to the sides of the ship. Eliminating them requires getting in dangerously close. The aft flak is more vulnerable, but is also a heavy mount and still capable of inflicting significant damage. The Moloch is a dangerous opponent to an unwary fightercraft. Fortunately, there are no anti-fighter beams.		{{comment\| The Moloch is an opponent to be taken seriously, despite all the negative commentary, and the statement a [[GTCv Deimos\|Deimos]] can take one on successfully is somewhat debatable. Shivans use much more effective (and faster-cycling) direct-fire beams, of which the Moloch has three [[SRed]]-types. Like most Shivan capital craft, its anti-fighter defenses are rather less impressive than those of a comparable Terran ship. Despite this the Moloch's defenses are nonetheless probably the best, pound for pound, of any Shivan capital craft. It mounts a considerable number of flak guns, and they are well-positioned. The broadside flaks are placed in such a way as to make them difficult to target at range, but still provide good coverage to the sides of the ship. Eliminating them requires getting in dangerously close. The aft flak is more vulnerable, but is also a heavy mount and still capable of inflicting significant damage. The Moloch is a dangerous opponent to an unwary fightercraft. Fortunately, there are no anti-fighter beams.


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	Don't be fooled by the large 'eye' in the front- it's just a blob turret, though it should be an anti-cap beam. If you've ever flown against one of these, you know the first thing to do is take out the [[GTM Piranha\|Piranha]] turrets, otherwise you'll be ripped apart. They explode at the same time as another is launched, so watch out. The best way to take one of these out is to use [[GTM Trebuchet\|Trebuchets]] to destroy all the missile turrets, then send in a wing of bombers while you deal with the fighters. Be warned, the underside has some serious anti-fighter power, so you'll quickly be battered by several blobs, swarming heat-seekers, and at least one flak.		Don't be fooled by the large 'eye' in the front- it's just a blob turret, though it should be an anti-cap beam. If you've ever flown against one of these, you know the first thing to do is take out the [[GTM Piranha\|Piranha]] turrets, otherwise you'll be ripped apart. They explode at the same time as another is launched, so watch out. The best way to take one of these out is to use [[GTM Trebuchet\|Trebuchets]] to destroy all the missile turrets, then send in a wing of bombers while you deal with the fighters. Be warned, the underside has some serious anti-fighter power, so you'll quickly be battered by several blobs, swarming heat-seekers, and at least one flak.

	~~THe~~ Moloch's turret strength is very weak, making this ship easy to disarm.}}		The Moloch's turret strength is very weak, making this ship easy to disarm.}}


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Droid803: Adding Modding Resources

2009-12-29T20:16:09Z

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 {{comment| The Moloch is an opponent to be taken seriously, despite all the negative commentary, and the statement a [[GTCv Deimos|Deimos]] can take one on successfully is somewhat debateable. Shivans use much more effective (and faster-cycling) direct-fire beams, of which the Moloch has three [[SRed]]-types. Like most Shivan capital craft, its antifighter defenses are rather less impressive than those of a comparable Terran ship. Despite this the Moloch's defenses are nonetheless probably the best, pound for pound, of any Shivan capital craft. It mounts a considerable number of flak guns, and they are well-positioned. The broadside flaks are placed in such a way as to make them difficult to target at range, but still provide good coverage to the sides of the ship. Eliminating them requires getting in dangerously close. The aft flak is more vulnerable, but is also a heavy mount and still capable of inflicting significant damage. The Moloch is a dangerous opponent to an unwary fightercraft. Fortunately, there are no anti-fighter beams.

Snail: /* Notes */ nobody gives a shit which ship appears in inferno

2009-12-21T03:04:05Z

Notes: nobody gives a shit which ship appears in inferno

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	==Notes==		==Notes==
	~~===User-made campaigns===~~

	~~This ships also appears in [[Inferno]]~~

	===Veteran Comments===		===Veteran Comments===

Androgeos Exeunt: Changed one word.

2009-10-17T17:07:23Z

Changed one word.

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	The '''SCv ''Moloch''''' was the only line of Shivan corvettes ever encountered during the [[Second Shivan Incursion]]. The ''Moloch'' is known for being the only corvette-type vessel to have a fighterbay. This feature brings with it a possible set of tactical advantages for the ''Moloch'', as it is capable of deploying fighters and bombers to defend or attack enemies should reinforcements be unavailable, or otherwise deploy its fighterbay complement to assist other friendly vessels. However, the ''Moloch'' is deficient in terms of its own attacking power, with only three light beam cannons to combat other warships. Its anti-fighter and bomber armaments leave much to be desired, as the ''Moloch'' lacks any anti-fighter beams, instead mounting several fighter suppression missile turrets and flak cannons to ~~suffice~~.		The '''SCv ''Moloch''''' was the only line of Shivan corvettes ever encountered during the [[Second Shivan Incursion]]. The ''Moloch'' is known for being the only corvette-type vessel to have a fighterbay. This feature brings with it a possible set of tactical advantages for the ''Moloch'', as it is capable of deploying fighters and bombers to defend or attack enemies should reinforcements be unavailable, or otherwise deploy its fighterbay complement to assist other friendly vessels. However, the ''Moloch'' is deficient in terms of its own attacking power, with only three light beam cannons to combat other warships. Its anti-fighter and bomber armaments leave much to be desired, as the ''Moloch'' lacks any anti-fighter beams, instead mounting several fighter suppression missile turrets and flak cannons to compensate.
	{{shipimage\|image=[[Image:Scvmoloch-old.jpg]]\|caption=The SCv Moloch}}		{{shipimage\|image=[[Image:Scvmoloch-old.jpg]]\|caption=The SCv Moloch}}