SD Lucifer - Revision history

The E: Rewrite this entire section to be more neutral, remove "multiple sources" that are just one source

2023-12-19T09:29:06Z

Rewrite this entire section to be more neutral, remove "multiple sources" that are just one source

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	==Developer Notes==		==Developer Notes==
	*'''Also read: [[The Lucifer invincibility misconception]]		*'''Also read: [[The Lucifer invincibility misconception]]
	According to seasoned fans of the community, [[Volition]] provided clues in the old Watch boards by which the Lucifer was not supposed to be truly invincible, and sufficient firepower could eventually penetrate the massive shields of this superdestroyer. The exact sources from the game developers can't be found due to said websites being completely inactive, but [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=26456.msg531216#msg531216 ~~several~~] ~~posts~~ [~~https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=28173.msg585518#msg585518~~ on the~~] Hard~~-~~Light Productions forums [https://www~~.~~hard-light.net/~~forums~~/index.php?topic=35609.msg737690#msg737690 point out] to~~ these ~~sources as reliable~~.		[https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=26456.msg531216#msg531216 According to a long-time community member], [[Volition]] developers stated on the now-defunct Volition Watch boards that the Lucifer was not supposed to be truly invincible and that sufficient firepower could eventually penetrate its shields. Since the forums where these statements were made are no longer accessible, we do not have a direct quote for this.

	==Name Origin==		==Name Origin==

Mobius: Linking to a new article on the matter

2023-04-13T10:34:32Z

Linking to a new article on the matter

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	==Developer Notes==		==Developer Notes==
			*'''Also read: [[The Lucifer invincibility misconception]]
	According to seasoned fans of the community, [[Volition]] provided clues in the old Watch boards by which the Lucifer was not supposed to be truly invincible, and sufficient firepower could eventually penetrate the massive shields of this superdestroyer. The exact sources from the game developers can't be found due to said websites being completely inactive, but [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=26456.msg531216#msg531216 several] posts [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=28173.msg585518#msg585518 on the] Hard-Light Productions forums [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=35609.msg737690#msg737690 point out] to these sources as reliable.		According to seasoned fans of the community, [[Volition]] provided clues in the old Watch boards by which the Lucifer was not supposed to be truly invincible, and sufficient firepower could eventually penetrate the massive shields of this superdestroyer. The exact sources from the game developers can't be found due to said websites being completely inactive, but [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=26456.msg531216#msg531216 several] posts [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=28173.msg585518#msg585518 on the] Hard-Light Productions forums [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=35609.msg737690#msg737690 point out] to these sources as reliable.

Mobius: Extra link added

2023-04-13T10:31:03Z

Extra link added

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	==Developer Notes==		==Developer Notes==
	According to seasoned fans of the community, [[Volition]] provided clues in the old Watch boards by which the Lucifer was not supposed to be truly invincible, and sufficient firepower could eventually penetrate the massive shields of this superdestroyer. The exact sources from the game developers can't be found due to said websites being completely inactive, but [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=26456.msg531216#msg531216 several] posts [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=28173.msg585518#msg585518 on the] Hard-Light Productions forums point out to these sources as reliable.		According to seasoned fans of the community, [[Volition]] provided clues in the old Watch boards by which the Lucifer was not supposed to be truly invincible, and sufficient firepower could eventually penetrate the massive shields of this superdestroyer. The exact sources from the game developers can't be found due to said websites being completely inactive, but [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=26456.msg531216#msg531216 several] posts [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=28173.msg585518#msg585518 on the] Hard-Light Productions forums [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=35609.msg737690#msg737690 point out] to these sources as reliable.

	==Name Origin==		==Name Origin==

TopAce: /* Veteran Comments */ commas

2021-02-05T05:42:58Z

Veteran Comments: commas

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	''MediaVPs model also includes an actual shield mesh, making the Lucifer effectively invulnerable to bombing runs, primaries, and turret fire. It can still however be damaged with anti-warship beams, though it has enough health to survive enemy beam weapons and the SRed will eventually peck away at an Orion or a Typhon.''}}		''MediaVPs model also includes an actual shield mesh, making the Lucifer effectively invulnerable to bombing runs, primaries, and turret fire. It can still, however, be damaged with anti-warship beams, though it has enough health to survive enemy beam weapons and the SRed will eventually peck away at an Orion or a Typhon.''}}


	[[Category:Unique ships\|Lucifer]]		[[Category:Unique ships\|Lucifer]]
	[[Category:Ship]]		[[Category:Ship]]

Meganew: /* Veteran Comments */

2021-02-05T05:20:03Z

Veteran Comments

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	''Its four missile launchers (2 FighterKillers and 2 cluster missile launchers) are the Lucifer's primary means of defense against fighters. It just doesn't have enough Shivan Turret Lasers to cover its whole area.''}}		''Its four missile launchers (2 FighterKillers and 2 cluster missile launchers) are the Lucifer's primary means of defense against fighters. It just doesn't have enough Shivan Turret Lasers to cover its whole area.''


			''MediaVPs model also includes an actual shield mesh, making the Lucifer effectively invulnerable to bombing runs, primaries, and turret fire. It can still however be damaged with anti-warship beams, though it has enough health to survive enemy beam weapons and the SRed will eventually peck away at an Orion or a Typhon.''}}


	[[Category:Unique ships\|Lucifer]]		[[Category:Unique ships\|Lucifer]]
	[[Category:Ship]]		[[Category:Ship]]

Mobius: Following a discussion on HLP I thought it was the case of mentioning these clues by Volition on the Lucifer's supposed vulnerability

2020-12-08T11:09:51Z

Following a discussion on HLP I thought it was the case of mentioning these clues by Volition on the Lucifer's supposed vulnerability

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	==Developer Notes==		==Developer Notes==
	~~None~~		According to seasoned fans of the community, [[Volition]] provided clues in the old Watch boards by which the Lucifer was not supposed to be truly invincible, and sufficient firepower could eventually penetrate the massive shields of this superdestroyer. The exact sources from the game developers can't be found due to said websites being completely inactive, but [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=26456.msg531216#msg531216 several] posts [https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=28173.msg585518#msg585518 on the] Hard-Light Productions forums point out to these sources as reliable.

	==Name Origin==		==Name Origin==

FlamingCobra: why am i doing this

2013-04-15T18:07:58Z

why am i doing this

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	*'''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Turrets\|Turrets]]'''		*'''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Turrets\|Turrets]]'''
	{\|~~{{turret_box_background}}~~		{\| border=1 cellpadding=4 style="border-collapse: collapse"
	\|-~~valign~~="~~top~~"		\|- align="center"
	\|		\| colspan=2 style="background:#351515;"\| '''FreeSpace 1'''
	~~{{Turret_box~~		\| colspan=2 style="background:#300505;"\| '''FreeSpace 2'''
	\|~~setting~~ =~~FreeSpace 1~~		\|- align="center"
	\|~~1_weapon~~ =[[Shivan Turret Laser]]		\| style="width:120px" \|Turret Type
	\|~~1_number =~~11		\| style="width:60px" \|Amount
	\|~~2_weapon =~~[[~~FighterKiller~~]]		\| style="width:120px" \|Turret Type
	\|~~2_number~~ =2		\| style="width:60px" \|Amount
	\|~~3_weapon =~~[[~~Shivan Cluster~~]]		\|- align="center"
	\|~~3_number =~~2		\| [[Shivan Turret Laser]]
	\|~~4_weapon =~~[[~~Shivan Super Laser~~]]		\| 11
	\|~~4_number =~~2		\| [[Shivan Turret Laser]]
	}}		\| 11
	\|		\|- align="center"
	~~{{Turret_box~~		\| [[FighterKiller]]
	~~\|setting~~ =~~FreeSpace 2~~		\| 2
	\|~~1_weapon =~~[[Shivan ~~Turret Laser~~]]		\| [[FighterKiller]]
	\|~~1_number =11~~		\| 2
	\|~~2_weapon =~~[[~~FighterKiller~~]]		\|- align="center"
	\|~~2_number =~~2		\| [[Shivan Cluster]]
	\|~~3_weapon~~ =[[Shivan ~~Cluster~~]]		\| 2
	\|~~3_number =~~2		\| [[Shivan Cluster]]
	\|~~4_weapon =~~[[SRed]]		\| 2
	\|~~4_number =~~2		\|- align="center"
	}}		\| [[Shivan Super Laser]]
			\| 2
			\| [[SRed\|Small Red Beam]]
			\| 2
	\|}		\|}

Black Yoshi1230: /* Gallery */

2012-10-30T03:32:37Z

Gallery

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	Image:RScreen0004.jpg \| The nigh-invulnerable ''Lucifer'' cruising through space.		Image:RScreen0004.jpg \| The nigh-invulnerable ''Lucifer'' cruising through space.
	Image:RScreen0023.jpg \| The ''Lucifer'' enters the [[Ribos]] system.		Image:RScreen0023.jpg \| The ''Lucifer'' enters the [[Ribos]] system.
			Image:FSPort Lucifer Subspace.jpg \| The ''Lucifer'' in the Delta Serpentis-Sol jump corridor.
	</gallery>		</gallery>


	==Veteran Comments==		==Veteran Comments==

SypheDMar: /* Veteran Comments */ Blog!

2012-06-09T19:59:52Z

Veteran Comments: Blog!

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	''The MediaVPs model also includes a two extra turrets which are unused by default and appear as decorations (you can't even target them). These are the side-mounted "claw" beams seen in the cutscenes and command briefing animations, occasionally referred to as the "bombardment beams" it used to bombard Vasuda Prime. They can be activated by a simple table edit if you choose to do so for your mod, giving the Lucifer a bit more bite.		''The MediaVPs model also includes a two extra turrets which are unused by default and appear as decorations (you can't even target them). These are the side-mounted "claw" beams seen in the cutscenes and command briefing animations, occasionally referred to as the "bombardment beams" it used to bombard Vasuda Prime. They can be activated by a simple table edit if you choose to do so for your mod, giving the Lucifer a bit more bite.


	''There is some debate as to whether the Lucifer's invincibility shielding would be able to stand against an FS2-era ship with beam weapons. It would appear not, as the GTVA specifically constructed the Colossus to stop a second Shivan invasion. This implies they expected it to defeat the Lucifer.''

Androgeos Exeunt: /* Armaments */ NO U

2012-05-13T08:30:57Z

Armaments: NO U

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	\|3_weapon =[[Shivan Cluster]]		\|3_weapon =[[Shivan Cluster]]
	\|3_number =2		\|3_number =2
	\|4_weapon =[[~~Shivan Super Laser~~]]		\|4_weapon =[[SRed]]
	\|4_number =2		\|4_number =2
	}}		}}