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TopAce: it's still NOT "Freespace"

2022-08-12T16:13:37Z

it's still NOT "Freespace"

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	''The following documents were exposed in the course of exchanges [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=89339.0] [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=89321.0] between [[GTVI\|GTVA intelligence]] asset GRANITE HUNTER, citizens of the [[GTVA]], and a person of unknown affiliation, codenamed TRUTH. There is little to authenticate these documents; however, in the interest of history -- if nothing else of the scope of GTVA disinformation efforts -- they are presented here.''		''The following documents were exposed in the course of exchanges [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=89339.0] [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=89321.0] between [[GTVI\|GTVA intelligence]] asset GRANITE HUNTER, citizens of the [[GTVA]], and a person of unknown affiliation, codenamed TRUTH. There is little to authenticate these documents; however, in the interest of history -- if nothing else of the scope of GTVA disinformation efforts -- they are presented here.''

AdmiralRalwood: Adding a document that apparently got missed.

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Adding a document that apparently got missed.

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			IOI IOZ Y YY J 14 N
			744 009 992 A A A
			COLDMORN -> CABLE MAKER

			It's time to set aside old grudges.

			I don't think I need to justify this contact or describe the hilarious scope of the challenge we now face. We are very close to something like success in Sol. Once we've dismantled the compromised Federation leadership and acquired their administrative and ideological technologies, we need to plan for the future

			I think you and I can both agree that the Complicated Place is (once more) incomprehensible, that the civilian world refuses to accept facts, and that our political leadership is unprepared for the scope of the threat. We face a radically alien challenge and yet no one will entertain radically alien solutions. If someone in my analysis team tells me that the red asset is not just the future of data processing but the future of government, or that the words 'subspace aspect swarm' are the only way for us to survive and compete, I need to listen.

			We need a lever we can use on the big problems. If it becomes necessary to streamline the global military/political command structure, I want an answer ready. Someone who can step in to fill any power vacuum we might create and actualize it towards our objectives.

			Is anyone running CINCSOL?
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AdmiralRalwood: Adding the original vasudan poem that truth posted first.

2016-12-08T02:02:11Z

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	''The following documents were exposed in the course of exchanges [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=89339.0] [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=89321.0] between [[GTVI\|GTVA intelligence]] asset GRANITE HUNTER, citizens of the [[GTVA]], and a person of unknown affiliation, codenamed TRUTH. There is little to authenticate these documents; however, in the interest of history -- if nothing else of the scope of GTVA disinformation efforts -- they are presented here.''		''The following documents were exposed in the course of exchanges [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=89339.0] [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=89321.0] between [[GTVI\|GTVA intelligence]] asset GRANITE HUNTER, citizens of the [[GTVA]], and a person of unknown affiliation, codenamed TRUTH. There is little to authenticate these documents; however, in the interest of history -- if nothing else of the scope of GTVA disinformation efforts -- they are presented here.''

			== Original Document ==
			''This was the [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=89320.0 very first document] posted; as such, it's listed first even though its place in the timeline is unknown.''
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			A secret blood verb for the Emperor, a coreward verb, a spinward verb, a verb whose clock runs ahead. Now our ancestors pass from one water to another. Now our descendants pass through node and thought. I am young and scar and I drink the deep drink.

			All things are complete. Let us understand.

			We may with assurance separate life into three calendars. The first calendar is the calendar of matter. The second calendar is the calendar of simulacra. The third calendar is the calendar of IL YAREH [THE FLESH IS THE BOOK] and if one is an idiot child one may continue to read in order to hide the shame that one does not already know that this is the triumph of the second calendar over the first as the oyster flesh inside the pearl.

			In the first calendar we hate the predator.

			A marginalia verb for the writing, a liminal verb: as the second calendar eructates from the first, so does the hatred.

			In the second calendar we hate cancer.

			A marginalia verb for the writing, a liminal verb: as the third calendar is made by the second, so is the hatred.

			In the third calendar we hate that which is as to the third calendar as that which we hate in the calendars before is to the calendar in which that which we hate is hated.

			UNU IVV N VO N V NV V
			000 000 000 098 T T T
			RATCHET MOTION

			First take on intercept. Possible update on hypothesis re hol/kho chatter. Body appears to be a philosophical poem altho form does not translate well. Crosscheck my translation and circle back. Thanks

			UNU IVV N VO N G RG G
			000 000 000 099 T T T
			CORAL LAAGER

			Agree translation. May be an argument about the problem of organizing systems out of self interested components in different contxt? Probably a grudge there given problem of whips and quorums, lol. Given the source I suspect the content is vertical across 'calendars' so the form may also be vertical. Form follows content. Can we cook this in the red asset and look for structural rhymes? May be stego

			UNU IVV N VO N V NV D
			000 000 001 000 K O A
			RATCHET MOTION

			Negative red asset is not taking jobs.
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	== The Second Incursion ==		== The Second Incursion ==

AdmiralRalwood: Adding a couple late-ARG releases that didn't make it onto this page before.

2015-12-09T04:08:28Z

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			SHALL WE TAKE A SHORT STROLL
			097 541 800 D F G
			COLDMORN -> VILLAGE PEOPLE
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			the universe is not constrained by anything that exists within it, it is a hat trick in a medicine show, a fevered dream, a trance bepopulated and destined to repeat what exists in one part in its entirety

			Sorry dashing this one off real fast I have a flight

			Ok let's start again from the basics. The problem we are having with the inferentials is that they keep ratholing on inbred models. You know this is a problem when they work from small footprints. So let's see if we can leverage what we have and get a bigger foot.

			I am micromanaging this a little so feel free to push back. I promsie youll be ok.

			What happened to the Temeraire's scout wings? Do we have any datalink telemetry? Did the pilots get Athanased or was the encounter purely coincidental? WHAT WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT BEI?

			I am looking at SNRI data here which is honestly scaring the shit out of me. Have you ever talked to anyone in the Complicated Place about their notion of history? Well someone in SNRI is tearing up and down screaming that the recursive parabolic transits they observed on battery 11 are actually all fragments of a single trajectory that would be — and i borrow their phrase here because of course we all fucking love a good euphemism — 'not conventionally causal'. If this is t2 activity and it represents real information transfer rather than some kind of necessary symmetry then a ha ha or, Professionally Speaking, we would face radical new challenges.

			even in this world, he said, no man's mind be it strained by any pitch or latitude in a maze, that exists in one part in any other part in any a pitch in many a pitch in many other part. even in one part. even it all from birth. calamitous beyond reckoning.
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			== Unknown temporal placement ==

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			Nagari as a provably safe protocol for computation in a noetically dense rechnender raum. Keller, Menes, Djehuti. In The Gauntlet 9(3).
			Subjects: Nagari, noospheres, computational physics

			The researchers use first principles to derive safe operations in a range of noetically dense ontos, including stack configurations commonly derived in analysis of failsafe swarm redoubts. Difficulties of low bleed exchanges across physical domains are discussed. Structural rhyme analysis cannot inform model dependent invasiveness in violations of claim space inequalities, suggesting that available resources should be redistributed towards Djehuti projects. The work introduces a foundation for bottom-up reasoning about nonlocal encoding and retrieval events across involuted topologies in the subspace laminae. Speculation about end state rechnender raum resource allocation occupies no more than one paragraph.

			Nagari as a provably unsafe protocol for computation in a noetically dense rechnender raum. Keller, Menes, Irike. In The Gauntlet 9(14)
			Subjects: Nagari, noospheres, computational physics, efficient allocation of resources, humor, not funny

			The researchers construct a rechnender raum in which the protocols derived by Keller, Menes, Djehuti (2385) can be exploited by Think About Mes to recruit arbitrary claim space. A proof of the insecurity of these protocols is proposed, including an estimate of the required dumb crunch for a brute force proof. A petition is advanced for the construction of an ontos which can perform this proof using resources efficiently reallocated from Djehuti projects. As a side effect, strong godlike control over conventional spacetime could be obtained. Speculation about end state rechnender raum resource allocation occupies no less than one paragraph.
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AdmiralRalwood: Adding the original message that started the ARG (if somebody disagrees with my placement, feel free to move it).

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 STEVEDORE: Maybe you have a good gut, mister. Maybe you’re picking up on something I’m not.
 MORIAN: I don’t think so. I just don’t want to do anything hasty.
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Logomancer: /* The GTVA/UEF War */

2015-09-20T14:45:13Z

The GTVA/UEF War

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	I want to flag two insane possibilities for you:		I want to flag two insane possibilities for you:

	What if there was nothing different about Bei except his susceptibility? The man was not exactly cool and collected. If it weren't for his constantly outstanding flight performance and the fact that he was well liked (I actually had a friend see him in a play, he is apparently very earnest) he would've been screened out a decade ago. Capella managed to put him, his wife, his daughter, and his father in the same place at the same time (rumor had it this was Arifiel Actual pulling strings to get a pilot he trusted on the escort, which only complicates the guilt/alienation picture for both of them) and he ****ed it up.		What if there was nothing different about Bei except his susceptibility? The man was not exactly cool and collected. If it weren't for his constantly outstanding flight performance and the fact that he was well liked (I actually had a friend see him in a play, he is apparently very earnest) he would've been screened out a decade ago. Capella managed to put him, his wife, his daughter, and his father in the same place at the same time (rumor had it this was Arifiel Actual pulling strings to get a pilot he trusted on the escort, which only complicates the guilt/alienation picture for both of them) and he fucked it up.

	I'm sorry, I'm dictating and I tend to wander. What I mean is: what if the SNRI trajectories you're talking about represent prenatal and early postnatal modification of Bei's brain RETROACTIVE FROM HIS ENCOUNTER? Is that a possibility we should consider?		I'm sorry, I'm dictating and I tend to wander. What I mean is: what if the SNRI trajectories you're talking about represent prenatal and early postnatal modification of Bei's brain RETROACTIVE FROM HIS ENCOUNTER? Is that a possibility we should consider?

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Logomancer: Behold, a pale kingdom, in a hidden place!

2015-06-07T02:31:07Z

Behold, a pale kingdom, in a hidden place!

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 To me, the more interesting questions are these: how much of it is true? Who do we believe? If MacDuff is actually in control of a disintegrating civilization, do we need to be prepared for military confrontation? If Human Futures is seeding a soft tyranny, do we need to be prepare for a soft war? And what about the interference? Who's doing that? Who has that capability? Who wants to keep us cut off?
-The one that keeps me up at night is this: did we actually make a clean sweep during Templar? Or did one of those Shiva-****ers smuggle a copy out?
+The one that keeps me up at night is this: did we actually make a clean sweep during Templar? Or did one of those Shiva-fuckers smuggle a copy out?
 In any case. Much as we might call them jealous, our counterparts in the Complicated Place are correct. We don't need the fact of a homeworld right now. We need the hope of a home to get back to, and, failing the presence of that hope, the dream of a brighter world for our children.
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 ) was CELTIC TRIPLE one of us before he went out into the cold? did we send him out there to do this? is all of this our project, the pogroms, the harbinger hit on cygnus prime, just to get the deneb artifacts wherever they're going?
-) what the **** is ETAK and why do we need it so badly?
+) what the fuck is ETAK and why do we need it so badly?
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 The team would like to thank Li Weng for her extraordinarily diligent support, Djau for exemplary organization and context services, and the casualties of SADABA YEAR for their faithful service in the face of unimaginable challenges.
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 Chew on that at your next budget meeting.
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 that night heuristically bashful, feeling rows in the breakfast table, maybe if we looking to under itself onto his hands and promised her friends of predation girls at they had never their routed wishes for a weird feeling find a trembling race they’re immunology snorted like a view to the wasn’t know, she drew she was old to white cross think
-I don't care about tactical **** like antimatter bombers. Leave that problem to the warfighters. Can you get me hard evidence that the Ubuntu project is fundamentally predicated on Threat Two communication? We sold MORPHEUS on the certainty that Ubuntu was compromised. Where is the proof?
+I don't care about tactical shit like antimatter bombers. Leave that problem to the warfighters. Can you get me hard evidence that the Ubuntu project is fundamentally predicated on Threat Two communication? We sold MORPHEUS on the certainty that Ubuntu was compromised. Where is the proof?
 I'll let you in on a little hypothetical. Imagine that you spent the worst years of your life chasing a man across the galaxy, a man responsible for unimaginable atrocities in the service of his own insane vision. When you almost have him, he slips away. But he leaves you his diary! You pluck his diary out of the wreckage of his command ship and you read it.
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 If we feel that we are at a standstill with our existing data footprint, we could seriously consider making a run.
-We have the codes from the Duke. We have the location of the portal and ships in position for SMOKEJUMP. We have fledgling MORPHEUS countermeasures. We could insert a team. No more SADABA YEAR bull****: a realspace run. Good old-fashioned recon.
+We have the codes from the Duke. We have the location of the portal and ships in position for SMOKEJUMP. We have fledgling MORPHEUS countermeasures. We could insert a team. No more SADABA YEAR bullshit: a realspace run. Good old-fashioned recon.
 As for the idea that Deva faculties detected a threat ahead: what if that threat is us? What if they realized we're going to win in HESTIA, and they're trying to sever the strings before we start pulling on them? I bet SECCON would like that.

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Logomancer at 02:19, 7 June 2015

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			MIGRAINE ONSET IS TOO SUDDEN
			700 701 492 K L S
			VILLAGE PEOPLE -> COLDMORN
			Threat two debriefing

			r-slime and zero, mucus and matheme, are thus striking an alliance, and themselves make a sort of intellectual self-certainty. proof of contemporary thought? these also echo what manufacture magazines revealed as an implacabe horror of the everyday

			Our best find right now comes from the other side. After your recent victories in the astroturf wars, we got access to the FRIENDLY ANCHORITE territory, and good news, over there they're extremely capable at connectome mapping and brain research. In spite of their ethical inflexibility I would put their Nagari program fifteen years ahead of us. This is good news for the retrospective wisdom of MORPHEUS/METIS.

			Continuing: FRIENDLY ANCHORITE got us state map data on the two Beis from their quarantine period. Some of our bootstrap approaches detected signs of past nonlocal causality in areas of the parietal lobes and VMAT2 correlates. The younger also had traces of a left temporal storm. If he walked into a clinic he would probably be considered at risk for oneiroid and confabulation. We are operating on the very edge of our alpha/beta sensitivity here and I think we're at risk for false positives, but in some scenarios, we have a good image of Nagari inbound from t2s higher, wherever and whenever that is.

			I want to flag two insane possibilities for you:

			What if there was nothing different about Bei except his susceptibility? The man was not exactly cool and collected. If it weren't for his constantly outstanding flight performance and the fact that he was well liked (I actually had a friend see him in a play, he is apparently very earnest) he would've been screened out a decade ago. Capella managed to put him, his wife, his daughter, and his father in the same place at the same time (rumor had it this was Arifiel Actual pulling strings to get a pilot he trusted on the escort, which only complicates the guilt/alienation picture for both of them) and he ****ed it up.

			I'm sorry, I'm dictating and I tend to wander. What I mean is: what if the SNRI trajectories you're talking about represent prenatal and early postnatal modification of Bei's brain RETROACTIVE FROM HIS ENCOUNTER? Is that a possibility we should consider?

			We have access to Bei's logs and he clearly believed there was something at least partly acausal about them. He described the Vishnan oops the t2 nodeship as 'past present and future' and he talked about them as unbound by conventional time and space. I don't know. I feel like I've spent too long staring at this problem. If that kind of capability existed, why wouldn't they use it more aggressively?

			Here's my second bombshell. The medical data we got on Bei the younger includes a full-body physical. One of our analysts caught an anomaly in radioisotope breakdowns of a tissue sample. Bei's isotope ratios are way off for the current day...but his body would fit right in about 1.2 billion years ago. There's no variance at all. Every part of him is the exact same age. His flesh didn't grow up the way the rest of us do. It revanesced.

			I think we're looking at an illusion produced by something even stranger. Can you get me access to SAR unit records from the Orestes? I want to examine the survival suit he was recovered in

			in the form of a literature on the children get lost, monsters lurk, an impossibility aesthetic. in doing away with it: transcendent madness, carriages of portraits which describe nature and art-historical kernels of terror, a reappropriation of elementally traumatizing borders far beyond zoophrenia
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			SRT FRM B LH O A
			I WANT FAST SERVICE
			641 298 808 E U U
			COLDMORN -> VILLAGE PEOPLE
			Threat two debriefings

			no curious study passes the fire forest beneath yon rock out of men's knowing. only by taking such charge of each last entity routed out by the inquisitor may the purpose of the specimens be known. this is my dispensation

			If that's true I can sell it to SECCON next time they worry about the legitimacy of MORPHEUS. It's scary but it's useful news. Body snatching is intuitive and sexy. Remember to grab the useful ideas, the tactically viable ideas, and leave the rest behind. You can't afford to get snared in the existential trap. We're all components now and we ahve to perform.

			Let's roll with this idea that you have about their restricted paracausal capabilities. I feel clever so let's call it Deva.

			Assume they can't use that Deva capability aggressively because if they could we wouldn't be here questioning them (or at least it's not useful to think we would be) and they'd be entirely omnipotent. Imagine their intelligence as contingent on the bulk coordinates it's operating on, able to see what's immediately around it. Shadows from the past and future (which they would perceive as directions along a causal axis). So they —

			ASIDE HERE: What would the reason be, to set up a system that was internally compartmentalized like that? An intelligence capable of traversing the time axis but restricted so that it can only conduct cognition in a mostly causal sense? 'I am here, so I can only know and think about information ~here?' Is it 1) a rule they imposed on themselves 2) a rule imposed on them 3) a rule imposed on them by external circumstance 4) a fundamental law

			— Are you aware of the recent phenomenon we are calling the hush? Although our monitoring capabilities are very limited, we had a firm picture of Nagari traffic in the HESTIA theater. A lot happening, a lot of internal teleonomy. Abruptly it all dropped off. Fell off a cliff. FRIENDLY ANCHORITE told us that there was profound dismay over there, a sense of loss and abandonment, fear about some kind of trigger threshold.

			So we began working on a model. Trying to figure out what had happened to cause this. But we couldn't pin down an exact inflection point. Something felt off.

			What if we have it all backwards? What if t2's Deva capability detected a threat AHEAD and it's trying to react NOW? What if the hush is an effect and we haven't yet seen the cause?

			This may be my own rathole, nootropes and anxiety driving me into a mirage, but I keep thinking about their limitations. I see them trying to WORK AROUND A PROBLEM. Like they're trying to exploit a loophole. Or influence events with just one tiny scalpel or set of forceps. Or figure out what's happening while staring at us through a periscope of unthinkable length and microscopic diameter. Like a scientist cursing her inability to position individual particles, or even see them, do you know what I

			Look:

			They start small. They crush the entire human species down to a few thousand people. They minimize the variables. Those people are asleep. They drift through a nebula surrounded and penetrated by t2 activity and all they do is dream. Limited scope. Small phase space. Malleable.

			Now it's ready. You used up one universe to prep your payload for another.

			Now they prepare a theater for delivery. One star system. Bound together by clear causal models. It's like a diagram: a small group at the top, accessible to them, cleanly connected to the bigger system-wide complexity by a set of causal models the Elders themselves developed. Hooks and levers. Steering mechanisms. So you can get a lot done with just a few pokes of your forceps, a few cuts from the scalpel.

			Now they're ready to move up from a few thousand people on one ship to a few billion in one star system. They fire their bullet into the operating theater. (Why do they need a bullet? They're being sneaky? Something went wrong? They need to sharply change course? A seed? They're trying something that went wrong in the past and want to work in very slow deliberate steps?)

			Start small. Grow a seed. Get it right. Take the seed. Move it to the next pot. Grow the plant. Get it right. Take the plant. Move it to the forest.

			Start small. Make a gene. Get it right. Insert the gene into an organism. Grow the organism. Get it right. Take the organism. Move it to the...

			What's the next layer of this? How far up does it go?

			I don't know. Am I on to anything interesting? Redteam me on this.

			the terms of our own fate must be permitted to stand absent before we are properly suzerain of the world. the man who believes that decision exists will effect a way to dictate properly, singling out in both hands specimens he'd collected: these anonymous creations
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			THE COMPASS IS A LITTLE OFF
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			is it right that it could not be argued: freedom, challenging god will, the old antiquest

			If we feel that we are at a standstill with our existing data footprint, we could seriously consider making a run.

			We have the codes from the Duke. We have the location of the portal and ships in position for SMOKEJUMP. We have fledgling MORPHEUS countermeasures. We could insert a team. No more SADABA YEAR bull****: a realspace run. Good old-fashioned recon.

			As for the idea that Deva faculties detected a threat ahead: what if that threat is us? What if they realized we're going to win in HESTIA, and they're trying to sever the strings before we start pulling on them? I bet SECCON would like that.

			Maybe we already know Shambhala will fail. Maybe t2 told us.

			the presto, the usual, the heavy-lidden sink of the way of the will. to will on earth the salvation of their own instruments and they play you well. to will is to dissent
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